Hoza Posted August 23, 2019 Report Share Posted August 23, 2019 Player(s) being reported: ID49 and I believe this is Oti Maxwell Date of interaction reported: 23/08/2019 Unix time stamp from HUD: 1566574150 Your characters name: Otarik Hoza Other player(s) involved: Hanibal Specific rule(s) broken: Actions that are unrealistic or promote poor quality roleplay are considered as non-roleplay. How did the player break the rule(s)? So after a shoot out, I ran up to him pointing a gun, without any roleplay, and fear he grabbed his radio and changed the frequency. • You must display reasonable value for your life and comply with the demands of your attacker. Evidence of rule breach: https://plays.tv/video/5d6016358626c923d8/zetas-trash 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolokai142 Posted August 23, 2019 Report Share Posted August 23, 2019 When you raised your weapon, in the 0.1 seconds that it was up the freq on his radio was in mid change. There was no gun pointed at him until the extreme last second and you shot him to death anyway. You had no intentions of frisking or robbing him, you did not issue any demands upon running up to him, and you only finished him off. Just my opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoza Posted August 23, 2019 Author Report Share Posted August 23, 2019 Just now, Wolokai said: When you raised your weapon, in the 0.1 seconds that it was up the freq on his radio was in mid change. There was no gun pointed at him until the extreme last second and you shot him to death anyway. You had no intentions of frisking or robbing him, you did not issue any demands upon running up to him, and you only finished him off. Just my opinion. Keep your opinion to yourself and stop defending your 'boys' when you're not directly involved in the report. It was agreed by member of staff that it is a rule break, end of. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Striax Posted August 23, 2019 Report Share Posted August 23, 2019 I changed my freq when he is shooting me, no reason to fear rp, while he is already killing me. Had he gave demand at all or ever said a word to me I wouldn’t have, but when he is shooting my body, there isn’t a reason to fear rp in my opinion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoza Posted August 23, 2019 Author Report Share Posted August 23, 2019 Just now, Striax said: I changed my freq when he is shooting me, no reason to fear rp, while he is already killing me. Had he gave demand at all or ever said a word to me I wouldn’t have, but when he is shooting my body, there isn’t a reason to fear rp in my opinion You guys make me laugh haha, stop trying so hard not to lose the radio. It was a fear rp, you didn't bother of your LIFE whilst injured, you just didn't care anymore which triggers the fear rp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Striax Posted August 23, 2019 Report Share Posted August 23, 2019 Bother my life while I’m downed being shot more? I’m clearly already dying, a man is standing over me shooting me, nothing I can do at that point puts my life in more danger? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoza Posted August 23, 2019 Author Report Share Posted August 23, 2019 Wait for admin to reply. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mickeyyy Posted August 24, 2019 Report Share Posted August 24, 2019 REPORT PENDING Thank you for creating this player report. The following people will be tagged/notified to give their side of the story within the next 24 hours: @Striax Please explain to me why you think that you would physically be able to take out your radio, coherently type in commands and change your radio freq, all while having multiple gunshot wounds, laying on the ground and also still being shot. No one else is to respond except for Oti, thank you. What happens if the person does not respond? We will review the evidence again and provide our conclusion. What might help my case? Posting evidence of your own POV is always a very handy tool. If you don't have any evidence at your disposal, the best you can do is tell the story in full detail on how it happened on your side. Be honest and do not lie in your reply. Regards, Mickeyyy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Striax Posted August 24, 2019 Report Share Posted August 24, 2019 Well my radio is near my ear piece, I believe, or even possibly in my pocket? Either way it’s not like my char is typing in exact buttons it would be a last ditch effort, to save my gang as I could tell his plan was to murder me. It’s not that wild to be able to change radio freq. I didn’t change it to an exact radio freq, it was randomly hit buttons. When you are actually dying you have incredible amount of adrenaline running through your body...slightly moving my hand to hit a button or two as a man walks up, shoots me then has to reload, I don’t find that insane? The mentality here is my life comes first then my gang, they are my family, I would do what ever I could do to protect them in my last seconds if I knew 100% this man was killing me. Had he NOT ran up shooting me, thinking I could live, or he might not fully kill me, nothing would have happened. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mickeyyy Posted August 24, 2019 Report Share Posted August 24, 2019 @Striax so what you are saying is as someone who had, lets say, 3-5 gunshot wounds to the chest and was being repeatedly shot more while lying on the ground, you would have been able to coherently type in the commands to change the frequency of your radio. Changing the freq on a radio is not simply "it was randomly hit buttons". You have to type in a command into the interface, which usually consists of holding down 2-3 keys simultaneously or hitting the buttons in a certain order, before even being given the option of changing the freq. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Striax Posted August 24, 2019 Report Share Posted August 24, 2019 I mean I was shot ONCE more while on the ground, then he reloaded, I also had ample time while he stopped shooting to get to my radio, and begin changing it...... Also on a Baofeng radio, which is probably similar to the one we use In GTA, you are right it would take time to change the freq. unless you have some bound, you can change it with a click of 2 buttons. If you have preset freqs on that radio, to a charcter who uses radios 24/7 changes freq to on a daily basis, I don’t find it hard to think I would have that down to muscle memory. Either way I understand what you are saying, not gonna argue, i won’t be making this mistake again. Sorry for wasting your time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mickeyyy Posted August 24, 2019 Report Share Posted August 24, 2019 REPORT PENDING Thank you for your patience while this report is reviewed. After reviewing the evidence in this report, I have decided to lock the report for the following reason: Due to multiple things spotted in this video it will be locked for further review. You will be notified when we will make a decision. In the meantime, we ask you to remain patient and be respectful towards one another. We also request you to not PM staff members discord's while the report is pending. If you have to PM us, please use the forum PM system. Regards, Mickeyyy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mickeyyy Posted August 24, 2019 Report Share Posted August 24, 2019 REPORT ACCEPTED Thank you for your patience and comments provided for this report. After reviewing the evidence provided, I've decided to apply the following punishments to the following players: @Striax Oti_Maxwell will receive a NonRP punishment. He will not receive a FearRP punishment as there were no further demands and was being shot repeatedly instead. In the future lets try to up keep the upper most level of RP we can. We are not going to win every fight, roll with the punches and evolve with the role play. Not happy with the outcome? If you have received a punishment that you do not agree with, you are entitled to a fair punishment appeal that follows the guidelines and format provided. Otherwise, the conclusion of this report is final. Did the reporting party lose any items worth above 25.000 dollars as a result of this report? If you would like to request a refund, you may do so within our refund and transfer requests section, as long as your request follows the guidelines and format provided. Regards, Mickeyyy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
