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ID 79, 112, 24 (VDM, DM)

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Player(s) being reported: 79, 112, 24
Date of interaction reported: 21 August 2019
Unix time stamp from HUD: 1566419098

Your characters name: Frost Jack

Other player(s) involved: There was a witness however I did not save the aftermath so I cannot recall who it was.

Specific rule(s) broken:

14. Deathmatch (DM)

  • Deathmatching is the act of attacking a player or their property without a proper roleplay reason.

  • Examples of valid reasons to attack another player:

• If they attempt to arrest or hurt you, an ally, or damage your property.

• If they report you to the police for a serious crime.

• If they are not in compliance with demands, attempt to escape, or call other players for help in a situation where they are required to display fear under fear roleplay rules.

  • A player cannot kill their victim if the victim is in compliance with the demands.

  • A player must allow their victim enough time to comply with the demands.

  • If a player informs you that your VOIP isn’t working, you must either fix your VOIP using appropriate commands or use text to deliver your demand(s).

  • Vehicles cannot be used to attack another player more than once including a failed attempt.

  • Attacking another player with no engagement in roleplay is not allowed.

  • Killing a player that has obeyed all orders and demands during a roleplay situation is allowed, with roleplay, only within 3 hours of:

    1.  Severe hostile or criminal action is taken against you, e.g. someone is robbing you at gunpoint. (Excluding police aiming a gun at you.)

    2.   Someone is attempting to take your life.

    3.   Someone is attempting to take the life of your close friend or ally, or if you have witnessed it happen.

  • You must explain your reason to kill to the player IC and have OOC evidence proving your reason.

How did the player break the rule(s)?

The footage is self evident of how they broke the rules, however they essentially drove into, as well as shot, my character with absolutely NO form of roleplay. They had no reason for it at all. I've never interacted with any of those players before and thus they intentionally injured my character in a malicious way, ignoring all RP elements required for the harm of another character.

Evidence of rule breach:


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Thank you @shimo for your patience while this report is under review. 

After reviewing this report and the evidence attached to it, I have decided that this report cannot be concluded at this time. The following players will be required to provide their side of the story from this situation within the next twenty-four (24) hours:

  • [Niko_Roberts [ID #79]] - [Player will be notified in-game.]
  • [Jamal_Dequavis [ID #112]] - [Player will be notified in-game]
  • [William_Lee [ID #24]] - [Player will be notified in-game & via forum @hubbkezz12]

William_Lee, Why did you run over Frost_Jack?

Jamal_Dequavis & Niko_Roberts, who shot at Frost_Jack and why?

If the players above fail to respond to this report within the next twenty-four (24) hours, this report will be concluded based on the evidence that has already been provided, to the best of our ability. 


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1 minute ago, hubbkezz12 said:

Hello. I'm the driver. We were chasing another guy on foot around Legion Square and I saw this guy that looked almost the same as the guy we were chasing. After running him over and realizing it's not the same guy, I came over to him and apologized to him IC and offered to call a medic (can see it in logs) . I also apoligized in /ooc for this, but video cuts short. I'm sure you can check that on logs. None of us looted this guy, this was not done on purpose and I'm sorry, this is my mistake.

Even then, it's still DM if you killed the real guy.

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@shimo Thank you for your patience while this report was under review.

After reviewing this report and evidence attached to it, I've decided to accept this report and issue the punishments to the following players:

  • [William_Lee [ID #24]] - [Deathmatch] - [Offense #2] 
  • [Jamal_Dequavis [ID #112]] - [No Punishment] 
  • [Niko_Roberts [ID #79]] - [No Punishment] 


@hubbkezz12 let me explain the reasoning behind this decision. 

You attacked an innocent man for what appears to be no reason. Even if I give you the benefit of the doubt saying you were chasing someone who just robbed your friend, you had clearly lost sight of that individual (or never saw them at all). Had you not lost sight of them you wouldn't have accidentally ran over someone who had no part in your friends robbery. 

As our Deathmatch rule clearly states:
Attacking another player with no engagement in roleplay is not allowed.

I've gone over your previous punishments, as well as appeals, and I've found an instance where Varakai explains to you that KoS is no longer a thing. So you have had staff previously explain this to you which is documented. Shooting at someone with no demands from a moving vehicle, and then running them over does not condone an "engagement in roleplay".

As for Jamal_Dequavis and @naglisazukas,
I have watched the video several times and I'm unable to establish which one was shooting from the vehicle beyond a reasonable doubt. As such, I'd just like to state, had I been able to establish who was shooting from that vehicle, they would also receive a DM infraction in this instance.

If you have received a punishment that you disagree with, feel free to file a punishment appeal following the punishment appeal guidelines and format. If the reporting party suffered a loss greater than $25,000 in value, feel free to file a refund request following the refund request guidelines and format. 



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