ID 41, 65 (Combat logging & Potential metagaming)

[froggytommy]

Player(s) being reported: ID 65, 41
Date of interaction reported: 17/08/2019
Unix time stamp from HUD: 1566038580

Your characters name: Karl Suptic

Other player(s) involved: @ChieftainViking

Specific rule(s) broken:

8. Non-Roleplay (NRP)

• Actions that are unrealistic or promote poor quality roleplay are considered as non-roleplay.

• Examples of actions that are considered as non-roleplay:

• Cop Baiting - Provoking a reaction from emergency services without a realistic reason.

• Mercy Killing - Asking to be killed by a friend (Killing a friend falls under deathmatching).

• Unrealistic stunt jumping or the use of an expensive vehicle to ram into other vehicles.

• Spawning a scripted work vehicle and using it for crimes or submerging any vehicle in water.

• Swimming in water for an unrealistic amount of time or without a destination during a chase.

• Players who disconnect during roleplay must reconnect and inform other parties in order to resume roleplay. If you are unable to reconnect it may be excused after providing proof.

• In a situation where a player gets away from an incident where they're being chased/pursued, they must wait 15 minutes before they can logout. Players should not instigate roleplay situations if they do not have time to play it through. 

• Players who ignore answering roleplay commands directed at them, e.g. /do.

• In a situation where a player’s game crashes or the player is kicked from the server, they should be allowed to have the same advantages as they have had before their leave.

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  9. Metagaming (MG)

• Metagaming is the act of relaying IC information through any method not considered IC that has the potential to change current or future roleplay scenarios or using that information. 

• Mixing IC and OOC information without any benefit is a minor MG offense. For example, a player uses IC chat to call someone by their player ID displayed above their head.

How did the player break the rule(s)?

ID 41 combat logged during a shootout with police, this evidence I will be sent shortly as it was witnessed by another player, 5 minutes after the gunfight, 41 logged back in and potentially metagamed with ID 65 to come pick him up from the location, this is when I spotted 65 carrying 41 somewhere, followed them and got into a gun fight, i injured 65 pretty bad and he ran away and combat logged. I returned to 41 and he also combat logged for a SECOND time.

Evidence of rule breach:

I will send it to the person who is dealing with the report privately as it contains a personal chat in the background.

Edited August 18, 2019 by froggytommy
adding player involved

[ChieftainViking]

Heyo! ChieftainViking here! I was another one of the officers involved in the shootout between police and the gentlemen involved in this situation. One of them was shot down by myself after repeated orders to drop his firearm. He was downed and instantly requested a Death RP without any sort of roleplay element or communication to officers so his Death RP was denied due to that. After being denied deathRP, he combat logged and waited for his buddy to grab him to avoid capture by police. After being struck down by another officer, both him and his friend who came to retrieve him both 'timeout' and do not log back in the allotted time.

 

 

Edited August 18, 2019 by ChieftainViking

[JacobJordan]

Hello, ID-74 Here

so let me tell the whole situation so first my friend told me that my bike is being bobby pined so we went there and catch the guy and told him to put his hands up as we did this police found us and i started to run in the street as i was running some police car rammed into me and VDM so i got injured then at the same time that i asked about death rp my game timed out so before 15 minuets which my game was crashing multiply times i got back into the game i saw a police man in front of me and my friend who is runnig away so i told him in radio to pick my gun up but instead he picked me up and police saw us so he put me on the ground and ran away and police started to chase him after this my game crashed again so i reconnected quickly but there was no one there and i even stayed there for 30 minuets and admin can check the logs when i call the medic and other...

And + i was talk with officer Karl Suptic about that. 

Have Fun | Jacob Jordan

Edited August 18, 2019 by JacobJordan

[ChieftainViking]

To add to what was recorded in this situation, sadly Teamspeak 3 is not picked up in this recording. However, for those that are not aware, Teamspeak 3 is used by the server's Law Enforcement as Secure Tactical Channels for IC purposes, hence why some instances you will see me just randomly talking ICly with nobody around. Sadly it was recording the wrong mic at the time so you can't hear what I've said, but it has since been rectified so it won't happen again.

[JacobJordan]

@ChieftainViking Yes i know that - all good

[YuSoHelpful]

@froggytommy Could you please send the video evidence to me? YuSoHelpful/Osas#0420

 

Kind Regards,

Moderator YuSoHelfpul

[YuSoHelpful]

PLAYER REPORT PENDING RESPONSES

Thank you for your patience while this report is under review.  After reviewing this report and the evidence attached to it, I have decided that this report cannot be concluded at this time. The following players will be required to provide their side of the story from this situation within the next twenty-four (24) hours: Jacob_Jordan @JacobJordan [ID #41/75] - Please explain the following: 1. How it's possible that both you and ID #65 log out and log in within 1 minute of eachother each time during this incident.  2. How did you call him over the radio? Did you use VOIP or /r ? 3. Why do RP a broken leg ( /do broken leg ) after being shot multiple times by a handgun? 4. Why didn't you contact the other party to work out the issue? Or make a report to resolve the issue? 4. Do you have a recording on your own?   Frank_Nouraei [ID #65] - [Player will be notified in-game] Please explain the following: 1. How it's possible that both you and Jacob log out and log in within 1 minute of each other, each time during this incident.  2. How were you called over the radio? Did he use VOIP or /r ? 3. Why didn't you RP lifting Jacob's body? I see over 15 /carrybody commands but no RP. 4. Why didn't you contact the other party to work out the issue?(If you kept crashing) Or make a report to resolve the issue? 5. Do you have a recording on your own? If the players above fail to respond to this report within the next twenty-four (24) hours, this report will be concluded based on the evidence that has already been provided, to the best of our ability.  Regards, Moderator YuSoHelpful & Senior Support @Meggs_56

[JacobJordan]

1. It happened accidently and remember most of our family are in iran and the internet of iran had a bad situation these days and you can understand it from tct.ir(internet organization) and also you can see our timeout during the days.

2. First of all when i came back to the game i saw the officer standing faraway from me and when i turn to rightside i saw my friend was runnig, i called him through the radio and said him come and take my staff (in voip) and all members of our gang knew that.

3. I did rp broken leg because at first he ram me with car and you can watch that in video, and it damaged me very hard.

4. I liked that the rp be continued but when i came back before 15 min no one was there and i was pretty sure that i didnt break rules.

5. No but you can check all the information in logs.

Moderator, YuSoHelpful thanks for respond to report and check it!

Have Good Day / JacobJordan

 

Edited August 21, 2019 by JacobJordan

[frankf]

 

hello.
we had shootout with a officer then i was running away , and i heard on radio jacob is asking for help and i went to him , he told me take my gun , i was trying to open inventory but it didn't open , i carried him and i was going to drop him around here , one officer saw me and was coming to my side , i told him hands up and we started shooting and my game crashed so i after 3 or 5 min i went back to the game and i did not see any officers there.
my Evidence :

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/549188386724773889/613429406874206248/20190817035545_1.jpg

 

[ChieftainViking]

@frankf You are aware that you are supposed to come back in as soon as possible if you crash from a situation, not whenever you want to, correct? Furthermore you realize that the screenshot provided shows when you logged back in, not that there was any sort of actual communication between you and the other player involved or to support anything else said.

Edited August 21, 2019 by ChieftainViking

[YuSoHelpful]

PLAYER REPORT LOCKED FOR REVIEW

Thank you for your patience while this report is under review.  After reviewing this report and the evidence attached to it, I have decided to lock this report for review to gain a better understanding of the situation for the following reason(s): Reviewing the evidence and statements. You will be notified when we conclude this report. In the meantime, we ask that you remain patient and be respectful towards one another. If you have any questions, comments, or concerns that are related to this report, feel free to utilize the forum private messaging system to message involved players and/or staff members. Regards, Moderator YuSoHelpful & Senior Support @Meggs_56

[YuSoHelpful]

PLAYER REPORT ACCEPTED

Thank you for your patience while this report was under review. After reviewing this report and evidence attached to it, I've decided to accept this report and issue the punishments to the following players: Jacob_Jordan @JacobJordan [ID #41/75] - Non-RP - Offense #6 - Lying in /do. You claim that you had a broken leg, yet in the video you get up when the cop hits you and start walking backwards shooting at him. You get shot multiple times, whilst you might have a broken leg, you wouldn't walk backwards and start a shootout if you were planning on RP'ing a broken leg. Be aware that when you disconnect, you must try everything to continue the RP scenario, this can be PM'ing the officer involved, making a report in-game etc. I'll give you the benefit of the doubt on this scenario.   Frank_Nouraei [ID #65] - Will not receive a punishment this time and will be given the benefit of the doubt. As stated above you will need to do everything in your power to get back in-game and try to continue the RP scenario with the player involved. Please ensure this doesn't happen again.  You will be given a warning on your admin log, letting other staff members know that you've been warned for this behavior.   @froggytommy If you had waited on scene for the suspects to return, roleplay would be good to continue. You must give a disconnected player 15 minutes to return and continue RP. If they fail to do so you can report them. Next time I'd suggest waiting a little longer for them to return since you didn't wait the required 15 minutes. If you have received a punishment that you disagree with, feel free to file a punishment appeal following the punishment appeal guidelines and format. If the reporting party suffered a loss greater than $25,000 in value, feel free to file a refund request following the refund request guidelines and format.  Regards, Moderator YuSoHelpful & Senior Support @Meggs_56