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Player(s) being reported: ID 78 (NRP) ID 41 (DM)
Date of interaction reported: 5-31-2019
Unix time stamp from HUD: 1559306760

Your characters name: Nick Chang

Other player(s) involved: Name(s) Here

Specific rule(s) broken:
 

 

9. Non-Roleplay (NRP)

 

 

• Unrealistic stunt jumping or the use of an expensive vehicle to ram into other vehicles.

 

 

14. Deathmatch (DM)

  • Deathmatching is the act of attacking a player or their property without a proper roleplay reason.

  • Examples of valid reasons to attack another player:

• If they attempt to arrest or hurt you, an ally, or damage your property.

• If they report you to the police for a serious crime.

If they are not in compliance with demands, attempt to escape, or call other players for help in a situation where they are required to display fear under fear roleplay rules.


How did the player break the rule(s)?

I was on my way to High End lot to sell my sandking. I was shouted at to pull over while driving at 100+ Km/H. I was not under Fear RP at that given time. Player 78 then proceeds to slam into my vehicle when I slow down. Granted, the first bump could've been from me car slowing down. That was not the case, as player 78 continues to ram into me several times with his expensive sports car valued at over $200,000. Assuming that the those shout demands were their only reason to engage in any RP, the first was heard at 160 KM/H, while the second was right after I was rear ended harshly by the Jester. The second shout would NOT have been heard RP'ly, as my windows were in tact, and the passenger who gave the demands, was across the road. 

I continued to drive as the car did not seem like it would be able to flip mine. I drove back towards where I came from, while calling for backup. (GeForce didn't get my mic audio but evidence clearly shows radio being used and gang members responding to my call) 

Player 41 opens fire on my vehicle, in either an attempt to stall it, or take my life. He was damaging my property without a valid RP reason as the car chase in itself was NRP, and I was driving at high speeds when I was given any kinds of viable demands from the reported party. 

Evidence of rule breach:

https://streamable.com/6jg5g

https://streamable.com/mooej

Edited by DetectiveStone
Formatting and added reason for my lack of Mic Audio
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Hello and thank you for your report @DetectiveStone.

Marco Black @weirdMarco (ID 78) please explain your repeated rams against the much heavier vehicle, which were performed in a very expensive sports car. 

John Hanush @ABS13 (ID 41) please explain why you shot at the reporter.

Both players have 24 hours to reply, or a decision may be made without their side.

Sincerely,

alexalex303 and @punched

 

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Hello Dear Eclipse members 
im Here To answer My Dear Friend And I just wanna say Mr Chang i know that you Read Rules And i know that you know What is RP  server , These kinda things Happen to me Alot and in RP server When some one even in Eclipse The Things taht you did was (Fear RP ) Cause if you see The Video 3 Times My Friend Told you Pull Over , Pull over , Pull over But But He Did not Respond Top My RP it means The Player Which Break Rules here is Him not Me IN The Rules Say that He must Pull over And Continue RP But This Guy Didnt Stop And i didnt want To RAM him i just try to Stop Him And I still say that Not only i did Not Do Any Rule Breaking But Also This Guy Did  ( Fear  RP ) 
It is obvious  in Video  too 
Thanks For Reading 
Best Regards 
Marco 

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43 minutes ago, Marco11 said:

Hello Dear Eclipse members 
im Here To answer My Dear Friend And I just wanna say Mr Chang i know that you Read Rules And i know that you know What is RP  server , These kinda things Happen to me Alot and in RP server When some one even in Eclipse The Things taht you did was (Fear RP ) Cause if you see The Video 3 Times My Friend Told you Pull Over , Pull over , Pull over But But He Did not Respond Top My RP it means The Player Which Break Rules here is Him not Me IN The Rules Say that He must Pull over And Continue RP But This Guy Didnt Stop And i didnt want To RAM him i just try to Stop Him And I still say that Not only i did Not Do Any Rule Breaking But Also This Guy Did  ( Fear  RP ) 
It is obvious  in Video  too 
Thanks For Reading 
Best Regards 
Marco 

Thanks for taking the time to reply,

Let me start by saying you gave 2 text demands that were visible to me. 

The first was a shout from your car, going at 160+ Km/h. This demand is unrealistic as I would not fall under any fear for my life (Fear RP). I was going too fast and would never have heard that in real life. 

The second demand was given after you had hit my truck, sending me across the road. In the evidence provided my windows were still in tact, and you shouted from a distance that was about a street in between both of our positions. I would argue I was in no need to fear for my life, to the point where I would pull over and comply. 

You were constantly ramming me with an expensive sports car which is against server rules. 

Your demands were indeed in text chat, but were not threatening to my life. 

You had no reason to ram my car. You had no reason to shoot it either. 

I will let an admin decide the rest, I will not be replying any further. 

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Hello 
Look This is forum If you searching to say some think clever , go on say some think clever , Like windows tact or you cannot shout in 160km in reall life or some thing that make convince admin to ban us If you really want this its allright admin can do this its ok. but this way is not the Rightway. 

Just Remember This is game not reall life dont compare it with reall life As long as I know the best gangs in server doing this I won't say the names cause I respect them. I won't get mad for this to try ban some body Or I'm not that much serius to ban every body cause they tease me or killed me or rob me.   

You say My windows were tact So I couldn't Hear Any think allright from next time developers should add some small megaphone in every shops to peoples be able  buy this for using it.

If your windows were tact so why you tried run from us why you callbackup for it This is my question from you , and don't tell me please that because I get scared , Every one does have eye too see shout even in rules they say you should type it (type RP or saying things like this... ) its better , WE DIDN't use Voice that you say my windows status were tact so I didn't hear anythink also When we try to stop you our speed was less than 40 if you wanna talk about speed

also still I remind you this is forum not game that doing rp in forum too.

So I realize that IF every one in the server do fear RP and Run with car , after that If they say My windows tact.. or some thing like that , they will get guiltless ?  We are kinda adult we are not kid to using this reasons, Atleast Im sure about myself not sure about you.

 

Really How Can I descibe it that When Some one Try To runaway from when another person that they say pull over not even once but third or twice , then they run from them , I dont have permission to stop them?  so why big gangs doing this to every one? they shooting they raming not even with one car more than 3.4 car , they even mercy killing when they killed you why no one care about them? If this is forbiden

I dont Love to compare it with real life but As example I say , imagine you have enemy and you are driving with your car in street or highway , what ever, your enemy car come to you and try to stop you , they try to use gun for stoping you , this is not gonna happen in real life? if you didn't had this kind of Experience atleast I will give you some movie name that you can see this situation in there. atleast you will see they can use it. 

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1 hour ago, ABS13 said:

Hello 
Look This is forum If you searching to say some think clever , go on say some think clever , Like windows tact or you cannot shout in 160km in reall life or some thing that make convince admin to ban us If you really want this its allright admin can do this its ok. but this way is not the Rightway. 

Just Remember This is game not reall life dont compare it with reall life As long as I know the best gangs in server doing this I won't say the names cause I respect them. I won't get mad for this to try ban some body Or I'm not that much serius to ban every body cause they tease me or killed me or rob me.   

You say My windows were tact So I couldn't Hear Any think allright from next time developers should add some small megaphone in every shops to peoples be able  buy this for using it.

If your windows were tact so why you tried run from us why you callbackup for it This is my question from you , and don't tell me please that because I get scared , Every one does have eye too see shout even in rules they say you should type it (type RP or saying things like this... ) its better , WE DIDN't use Voice that you say my windows status were tact so I didn't hear anythink also When we try to stop you our speed was less than 40 if you wanna talk about speed

also still I remind you this is forum not game that doing rp in forum too.

So I realize that IF every one in the server do fear RP and Run with car , after that If they say My windows tact.. or some thing like that , they will get guiltless ?  We are kinda adult we are not kid to using this reasons, Atleast Im sure about myself not sure about you.

 

Really How Can I descibe it that When Some one Try To runaway from when another person that they say pull over not even once but third or twice , then they run from them , I dont have permission to stop them?  so why big gangs doing this to every one? they shooting they raming not even with one car more than 3.4 car , they even mercy killing when they killed you why no one care about them? If this is forbiden

I dont Love to compare it with real life but As example I say , imagine you have enemy and you are driving with your car in street or highway , what ever, your enemy car come to you and try to stop you , they try to use gun for stoping you , this is not gonna happen in real life? if you didn't had this kind of Experience atleast I will give you some movie name that you can see this situation in there. atleast you will see they can use it. 

 

Thanks for taking the time to reply,

Let me start by saying that this report is not personal, if you feel like I'm trying to get you banned, you're wrong. I want players to learn from their mistakes. You however, are starting to get personal, and it is not appreciated. 

"

We are kinda adult we are not kid to using this reasons, Atleast Im sure about myself not sure about you.

Just Remember This is game not reall life dont compare it with reall life

"

Above are your own words. I'm sorry you feel like this is childish, but the reality is, your level or Role-play was sub-par. The second quote, clearly shows that you don't understand the realism that we are trying to promote in this server. ECRP is not a GTA ONLINE server. It is realistic, and I understand no city in America is like the City of Los Santos, but your actions promote poor quality RP, and need to be fixed immediately, so others don't act the same way you both did. 

In my provided evidence, the RP interaction began when you shouted and rammed into the back of my truck. The Jester is valued at over 200k. Server rules state that you have to have a realistic care for your vehicles, especially if they're sports cars.

Who, in real life, speeds into the back of a truck yelling to pull over in an expensive sports car? 

NO ONE.

As for your quality of role-play, it was POOR to say the least, you didn't pull up next to me to talk, you just rammed into me less than 2 seconds after you demanded to "pull over". 

You shout AGAIN, after the cars made contact, as we are literally skidding and regaining our traction on the road. No one in their right mind is going to stop what they're doing and get out to assess the scene, let alone, let their captor get what they want. I was driving to sell my car at high end, I turned back to carpark and called for my gang members because you CONSISTENTLY rammed my truck with your sports car. 

This server isn't a "movie" or "GTA ONLINE". Both of you need to reflect on how POOR your role play was. You shouted from a moving vehicle and started shooting when I didn't pull over. This is starting to sound a lot like a movie, and a lot less like real life, which is what the server is aimed to be. There are plenty of reports with the outcome being a DM punishment. 

Timeline of events from my evidence provided:

-I Drive from Car Park to near High End

-I get shouted at while going 160km/h

-I slow down and you ram into the back of my truck

-You shout again as we are recovering from the crash(Unrealistic, as Id assume a car crash like that would leave you, the passenger, quite disoriented)

-I continue driving back to Car Park while I let my gang members know Im being chased

-The Jester continues to try and ram me, several times

-You open fire in an attempt to stall my truck

-We arrive at car park where my gang is waiting and you run away.

I will now wait for admins, as I believe the evidence is clear. 

 

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@Ricko This is Between @DetectiveStone And @ABS13And i , 
so i dont think this related  to you That you interfere With this Post ADMINS will make decision  and as Long AS i Know i dont need Any one To insult me And Start Saying Some things which it is even Not related  To Him 
This is related  To Admins And @DetectiveStone And @ABS13 
im really sorry For Saying That you know i Have Respect But i cant tolerate something Which is not even
related  To This Post 
Have Fun 
Good Luck 

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A good Speaker makes a Good liar , Mark Twain

 

Admin can see this situation that they call it this is not personal problem so what is this ?

When friend of him come to the third and using insult words and show us as idiot peoples.

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REPORT ACCEPTED

Thank you for your patience and comments provided for this report.

After reviewing the evidence provided, I've decided to apply the following punishments to the following players:

  • [Marco_Black] [Deathmatch #3 and Non RP #2]

    [Marco Black will receive Non RP #3 and Deathmatching #3 for ramming a large vehicle with an expensive sports car. He will be receiving the deathmatching punishment as he rammed the vehicle without a valid reason. Shouting commands from a moving vehicle is not considered engaging in RP and can be ignored. ]

     
  • [John_Hanush] [Deathmatch #1]

    [John Hanush will receive Deathmatching #1 for opening fire on the reporter without a valid reason. Shouting commands from a moving vehicle is not considered engaging in RP and can be ignored.]


Not happy with the outcome? If you have received a punishment that you do not agree with, you are entitled to a fair punishment appeal that follows the guidelines and format provided. Otherwise, the conclusion of this report is final. 

Did the reporting party lose any items worth above 25.000 dollars as a result of this report? If you would like to request a refund, you may do so within our refund and transfer requests section, as long as your request follows the guidelines and format provided. 

Regards,
Punched @alexalex303

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