Denni Posted December 21, 2018 Report Share Posted December 21, 2018 (edited) Player(s) being reported: Stranger 1477_8066, Stranger 6535_3382, Mask 8171_3912, Mask 3165_6220, Mask 4776_7252, Mask 8509_9451, Mask 1305_1103, Mask 3379_7029, Mask 962_3302, Mask 1820_3696, Mask 8630_9615 Date of rule breach: 21/12/2018 Time of rule breach: 16:00 GMT (Roughly) Your characters name: Jake Lawson Other players involved: David Garcia, Marco Davis, Bonquasha Quonde, Lewis Langley, Paulo Witherfork, Valentino Wesson, Specific rule broken: 6.3 Metagaming 6.3.1 Metagaming (MG) is the act of relaying IC information through OOC methods or using OOC information in roleplay scenarios. OOC methods include third-party software, for example, Discord. 6.3.3 Relaying IC information through OOC methods, which benefit the player, is a major MG offense and will result in a ban. For example, a player is at gunpoint, the player uses an OOC method to call for help, as a result, the attacker is unable to detect this action and has no chance to counter it (it is unfair for the attacker). 6.5.3 The deceased character must avoid interaction with their killer (or killers) for 30 minutes and must not return to the area of their death, unless the killer (or killers) have left the area. 6.6.1 Actions that are unrealistic or promote poor quality roleplay are considered as non-roleplay. 6.6 Non-roleplay 6.6.1 Actions that are unrealistic or promote poor quality roleplay are considered as non-roleplay. 6.6.2 Examples of actions that are considered as non-roleplay: • An attempt to provoke a police chase, without a realistic reason, also known as “cop baiting” (a realistic reason would be to divert police units away from an area, where your allies plan to commit a serious crime or are in the progress of one); 7.2 Deathmatch 7.2.1 Deathmatch is the act of killing or hurting another player (or damaging their property) without a proper roleplay reason. An attempt to break this rule will result in a temporary or permanent ban. 7.2.4 A player must allow their victim enough time to comply with the demands and warn the victim more than one time, if the victim is too slow to respond or react to the demands. 7.3 Vehicle deathmatch 7.3.2 A vehicle cannot be used to repeatedly force a player into a ragdoll state, for example, it cannot be used to knock the player down on the ground multiple times or to park a vehicle on top of them. 7.3.3 If there is a valid reason to attack someone, a vehicle may be used once (a failed attempt counts) to knock the other player on the ground. 7.3.4 If there are multiple players on a scene, the driver can hit each one of them only once, however, the driver is given only one attempt to do it. This means, that a vehicle cannot be used to drive through a scene multiple times with the purpose of hitting more players. How did the player break the rule?: Mass meta-gaming from many of the same individuals as in my last report. The players here have been using OOC methods to co-ordinate attacks. The individuals detailed not once used their radios and suddenly all of their friends appeared; there were more and more around and then suddenly such a coordinated attack? Mass amounts of rules broken. Some of the individuals cop baited clearly, even when told to leave, then they did "leave" and then they came back suddenly so well coordinated. One of the accused even thinking that me using a MICROPHONE was OOC. They need to re-read the rules. Evidence of rule breach: Before my evidence starts, I ask them to leave NUMEROUS TIMES. I even warn some of them over PM to say that they are now cop baiting (going and coming back constantly). Appendix #1 - My footage from my view and evidence: https://plays.tv/video/5c1d15c8e8899c0e7d/absolute-shit-show- Appendix #2 - My footage from a same individual coming to me to bug me more: https://plays.tv/video/5c1d164a2ec208e65a/leave-me-alone- Appendix #3 - Footage from one of the officers on scene: https://streamable.com/bpu4z I honestly would love to see their evidence of what happened as in my last report; they provided evidence muted and then I got a clip not muted (anonymously within their gang) showing them speaking another language and meta-gaming. ALL are aware of the report. Most of the same guys from my previous report. ALL are aware of the report. Most of the same guys from my previous report. Edited December 21, 2018 by Denni 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarcoD Posted December 21, 2018 Report Share Posted December 21, 2018 Hello, thank you for making this report. I will not be handling this due to my involvement however I will informing the following people so they can respond to this report: Johnathan_Allen | 1477_8066 @Met_Zoli Peyman Ataei | 6535_3382 @peymanata Samo Granados | 3165_6220 @AmooRid3r Amir Vierri | 4776_7252 Michael Cruz | 8509_9451 @nateX Arman Vieri | 1305_1103 @armanhesari Lucass Sanchez | 3379_7029 @Lucass_Sanchez Mehrab Hoffman | 962_3302 @hoffmang0d Erfan Nazari | 1820_3696 Yohan Sanchez | 8630_9615 @Redline Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nateX Posted December 21, 2018 Report Share Posted December 21, 2018 Honestly, I was just riding around trynna see what's going on inside. I saw guys from a rival gang getting arrested, so I wanted to take a look, I drove up a little bit when I was told to leave. I was by myself in game, just sitting in Music 2 listening to epic Minecraft parodies of songs with a lot of people. I was told to leave multiple times, I always left but just drove around the area, never did I ever have the intention to get myself arrested. I forgot about the whole situation and stopped at a traffic light, tabbed out to look what's going on in Discord, when I tab back in, I see a cop car pull up next to me and starts flaming me in PM's in all caps. Very nice. Also have video to back up my claims but not gonna upload them unless staff asks for it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Denni Posted December 21, 2018 Author Report Share Posted December 21, 2018 (edited) 5 minutes ago, nateX said: Honestly, I was just riding around trynna see what's going on inside. I saw guys from a rival gang getting arrested, so I wanted to take a look, I drove up a little bit when I was told to leave. I was by myself in game, just sitting in Music 2 listening to epic Minecraft parodies of songs with a lot of people. I was told to leave multiple times, I always left but just drove around the area, never did I ever have the intention to get myself arrested. I forgot about the whole situation and stopped at a traffic light, tabbed out to look what's going on in Discord, when I tab back in, I see a cop car pull up next to me and starts flaming me in PM's in all caps. Very nice. Also have video to back up my claims but not gonna upload them unless staff asks for it I also have videos of contacting you in PM. We had a lot of guys who have been meta-gaming then so I PM'd everyone to check their Cop Baiting. If you were ALT TABBED I can't know that so I messaged again. When you responded last saying you weren't part of them I ignored and I didn't PM again; none of it was used IC. The only thing said to you in IC was in the Megaphone. So apologies if you weren't involved directly I put down everyone who was in the area and could have been possibly involved as this is the second time (in the second day) that it has happened with this lot of guys. Michael Cruz | 8509_9451 @nateX is a respected member of the community and doesn't seem to be part of this; please can we take him off the "accused"? Edited December 21, 2018 by Denni Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nateX Posted December 21, 2018 Report Share Posted December 21, 2018 24 minutes ago, Denni said: I also have videos of contacting you in PM. We had a lot of guys who have been meta-gaming then so I PM'd everyone to check their Cop Baiting. If you were ALT TABBED I can't know that so I messaged again. When you responded last saying you weren't part of them I ignored and I didn't PM again; none of it was used IC. The only thing said to you in IC was in the Megaphone. So apologies if you weren't involved directly I put down everyone who was in the area and could have been possibly involved as this is the second time (in the second day) that it has happened with this lot of guys. Michael Cruz | 8509_9451 @nateX is a respected member of the community and doesn't seem to be part of this; please can we take him off the "accused"? I wasn't involved at all, I saw a yellow and black Bifta driving around and spotted a yellow and black dominator standing at LSC, but I knew none of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Denni Posted December 21, 2018 Author Report Share Posted December 21, 2018 Just now, nateX said: I wasn't involved at all, I saw a yellow and black Bifta driving around and spotted a yellow and black dominator standing at LSC, but I knew none of them. No problem! I genuinely added all the IDs that I saw in the area so I apologise for the misjudgement. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Met_Zoli Posted December 21, 2018 Report Share Posted December 21, 2018 (edited) hmmm, interesting im having fun with these cops because when they lose the fight against us the only thing they can say is "META GAMING" we laughed a lot with those videos btw... -Let us talk about Meta Gaming first: we called back up and we got the video of that moment we called back up here is the thing : -And about Cop Baiting all of our guys came to us when I called back up and as we are in the same family they have rights to defend us and try to help us in every situation and it wasn't cop baiting either ... -We accept VDM because too many cars were there when our guys tried to attack... -when cops try to take us in their cruiser our guys have rights to attack the police to rescue us for there wasn't any reason to take us as a suspect ... -and what was the Non-RP thing I can't find anything related to Non-RP rule breach... -and you should know that as a cop that not mixing IC and OOC Keep everything IC ... in your videos and SSs you sent in this report you can see every time you use your megaphone after that you use /b too... Hope MardoD judge well and don't Mix IC things in this report. thanks Peyman Ataei | 6535_3382 @peymanata Samo Granados | 3165_6220 @AmooRid3r Amir Vierri | 4776_7252 Arman Vieri | 1305_1103 @armanhesari Lucass Sanchez | 3379_7029 @Lucass_Sanchez Mehrab Hoffman | 962_3302 @hoffmang0d Erfan Nazari | 1820_3696 Yohan Sanchez | 8630_9615 @Redline Edited December 21, 2018 by Met_Zoli Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Denni Posted December 21, 2018 Author Report Share Posted December 21, 2018 2 minutes ago, Met_Zoli said: hmmm, interesting im having fun with these cops because when they lose the fight against us the only thing they can say is "META GAMING" we laughed a lot with those videos btw... -Let us talk about Meta Gaming first: we called back up and we got the video of that moment we called back up here is the thing : -And about Cop Baiting all of our guys came to us when I called back up and as we are in the same family they have rights to defend us and try to help us in every situation and it wasn't cop baiting either ... -We accept VDM because too many cars were there when our guys tried to attack... -when cops try to take us in their cruiser our guys have rights to attack the police to rescue us for there wasn't any reason to take us as a suspect ... -and what was the Non-RP thing I can't find anything related to Non-RP rule breach... Peyman Ataei | 6535_3382 @peymanata Samo Granados | 3165_6220 @AmooRid3r Amir Vierri | 4776_7252 Arman Vieri | 1305_1103 @armanhesari Lucass Sanchez | 3379_7029 @Lucass_Sanchez Mehrab Hoffman | 962_3302 @hoffmang0d Erfan Nazari | 1820_3696 Yohan Sanchez | 8630_9615 @Redline That is literally no evidence. You're showing radio for after the situation not before; show me unedited footage of before. Leading up to this... Non-RP is just POOR role-play from you guys overt he last few days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Met_Zoli Posted December 21, 2018 Report Share Posted December 21, 2018 1 minute ago, Denni said: That is literally no evidence. You're showing radio for after the situation not before; show me unedited footage of before. Leading up to this... Non-RP is just POOR role-play from you guys overt he last few days. first of all, I should mention that you need to solve past things in past reports not now... second: its enough to prove that we didn't metagaming they were using radio since they got in that tunnel... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Met_Zoli Posted December 21, 2018 Report Share Posted December 21, 2018 And I would like to ask for another admin to judge this report, not "MarcoD" because he was in the situation himself... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Denni Posted December 21, 2018 Author Report Share Posted December 21, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, Met_Zoli said: first of all, I should mention that you need to solve past things in past reports not now... second: its enough to prove that we didn't metagaming they were using radio since they got in that tunnel... Nope, that isn't proof. You haven't proved anything I can't even hear what you say. I hear "Officer pull us over" but no more detail?! How can you know the exact location? Also... You can hear his voice twice. That means you're using OOC methods too. Edited December 21, 2018 by Denni Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Denni Posted December 21, 2018 Author Report Share Posted December 21, 2018 Just now, Met_Zoli said: And I would like to ask for another admin to judge this report, not "MarcoD" because he was in the situation himself... He already said that someone else will handle it... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Met_Zoli Posted December 21, 2018 Report Share Posted December 21, 2018 Just now, Denni said: He already said that someone else will handle it... didn't see that my bad ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Denni Posted December 21, 2018 Author Report Share Posted December 21, 2018 Just now, Met_Zoli said: didn't see that my bad ... Honestly buddy, unless evidence is shown of them saying where and when they were getting pulled over. I don't see any proof. Please don't post anything else unless we have CONCRETE evidence against the allegations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Met_Zoli Posted December 21, 2018 Report Share Posted December 21, 2018 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Denni said: Nope, that isn't proof. You haven't proved anything I can't even hear what you say. I hear "Officer pull us over" but no more detail?! How can you know the exact location? Listen more Carefully I said, "come to the LSC" because they were in the Cloth Store at next street so we were on their way to LSC that's how they found us. Edited December 21, 2018 by Met_Zoli Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Denni Posted December 21, 2018 Author Report Share Posted December 21, 2018 1 minute ago, Met_Zoli said: Listen more Carefully I said, "come to the LSC" because they were at the Cloth Store at next street so we were on their way to LSC that's how they found us. Show us the rest of the video too. Up to where we died. Let's see there being NO metagaming. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Met_Zoli Posted December 21, 2018 Report Share Posted December 21, 2018 sorry, we can't upload anything about that ... we cut this part and deleted the rest of that because I didn't know the rest of the video might be useful... and I would appreciate it if you just let the admin decide for this Report... ...::Thanks For Your Time::... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Denni Posted December 21, 2018 Author Report Share Posted December 21, 2018 1 minute ago, Met_Zoli said: sorry, we can't upload anything about that ... we cut this part and deleted the rest of that because I didn't know the rest of the video might be useful... and I would appreciate it if you just let the admin decide for this Report... ...::Thanks For Your Time::... Yeah, let the admin decide. The whole point of the evidence is for you to show there was no metagaming for the whole situation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
armanhesari Posted December 23, 2018 Report Share Posted December 23, 2018 this guy do meta gaming and if any admin check his stream can confirm that . 6 sec video for about 15 min talking and rp ( nice evidence ) also you dont know cop baiting what mean . you say leave this area and we dont leave that mean cop baiting ? just try be good at game and dont report people because they are kicked your ass every single time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Denni Posted December 23, 2018 Author Report Share Posted December 23, 2018 3 hours ago, armanhesari said: this guy do meta gaming and if any admin check his stream can confirm that . 6 sec video for about 15 min talking and rp ( nice evidence ) also you dont know cop baiting what mean . you say leave this area and we dont leave that mean cop baiting ? just try be good at game and dont report people because they are kicked your ass every single time When you stop metagaming then the reports will stop. Please don't comment unless you have video proof to back your claim that you guys don't metagame. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
armanhesari Posted December 23, 2018 Report Share Posted December 23, 2018 3 hours ago, Denni said: When you stop metagaming then the reports will stop. Please don't comment unless you have video proof to back your claim that you guys don't metagame. when we dont meta gaming how can i show you proof ? but you do meta gaming and any can saw it . also you cut a video to 6 sec and in this video he called us in radio . so there is no problem Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Denni Posted December 23, 2018 Author Report Share Posted December 23, 2018 2 minutes ago, armanhesari said: when we dont meta gaming how can i show you proof ? but you do meta gaming and any can saw it . also you cut a video to 6 sec and in this video he called us in radio . so there is no problem My video isn't 6 seconds long buddy. That was one of your guys; please go take a look. Regardless, no evidence? Don't post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
armanhesari Posted December 23, 2018 Report Share Posted December 23, 2018 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Denni said: My video isn't 6 seconds long buddy. That was one of your guys; please go take a look. Regardless, no evidence? Don't post. i watch your 3 videos and i just laugh can you explain to me how we do meta gaming in this situation you just hater thats it . try to be better at the game also my friend submit a clip you can see we talk in radio Edited December 23, 2018 by armanhesari Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Denni Posted December 23, 2018 Author Report Share Posted December 23, 2018 Just now, armanhesari said: i watch your 3 videos and i just laugh can you explain to me how we do meta gaming in this situation you just hater thats it . try to be better at the game And you can't prove you didn't meta-game. Stop posting until you can provide the evidence. Leave it to the admins if you can't not cause drama. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
armanhesari Posted December 23, 2018 Report Share Posted December 23, 2018 Just now, Denni said: And you can't prove you didn't meta-game. Stop posting until you can provide the evidence. Leave it to the admins if you can't not cause drama. you have proof we do meta gaming ? at least we have somthing to show moderator Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
