Mask 3379_7029 NLR, DM, NonRP

[JayGamble]

Player being reported:  Mask 3379_7029
Date of rule breach: 19/12/2018
Time of rule breach: 6:04 PM PST

Your Character name: Jay Gamble

Specific Rule Broken:

6.5.3 The deceased character must avoid interaction with their killer (or killers) for 30 minutes

7.2.1 Deathmatch is the act of killing or hurting another player (or damaging their property) without a proper roleplay reason.

6.6.1 Non-roleplay Actions that are unrealistic or promote poor quality roleplay are considered as non-roleplay.


 

How did the player break the rule ?

Just got done with a scenario that involved this person robbing one of our close friends/gang members north on the highway above MD 10-15 minutes prior which resulted in this mans death. This person died on scene, yet immediately grabbed a gun, stalked us at MD and waited for me to leave only for the situation to occur in the footage. There was no interaction before shooting, I wouldn't have even noticed if the truck didn't pull up directly on top of me.

 

Evidence :

https://streamable.com/xh5g6

Edited December 21, 2018 by JayGamble

[Lucass_Sanchez]

I died by an accident on the highway, that u or another guy rammed me with ur bike when i was in the mid of highway

 

In your video its obvious that we didnt say anything

But the thing is, we said it 3 times

I can upload the video too if needed, u can hear us from my video that we sait stop,hands up...

 

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Also want to add:

That my death was because of your guys rule break

I was robbing 2 of you, while 1 of them was injured and the other one surrendered.

while im robbing the other guy, the injured guy sends a text on his phone.

And all of the zetas guys came to the scene in 2 Seconds, literally 2 seconds.

this is how they killed me before the video Jay gamble uploaded.

 

[Lucass_Sanchez]

Since i cant edit my post, in the first screenshot u can see that the injured guy sent a text on his phone.

And i uploaded the video about @JayGamble's Report. https://streamable.com/q03x7

Edited December 21, 2018 by Lucass_Sanchez

[JayGamble]

You died by accident? You were bumped by a bike, to which the person you had been robbing got up and shot you down. Also Keep in mind the man who was down and made the text jumped out of his car accidentally by fat fingering "F"; not to any interaction done by you, so exactly how did HE break a rule here? =

 

I'm almost positive this man revenge killed us over this reason, as it's the only way I could put his NLR attack into perspective.

[Lucass_Sanchez]

Anyway, it doesnt matter how the guy died. I was robbing the girl and both of them were friends

So its obvious if he does a wrong thing im going to kill him, AND STILL he sends the text

 

[Rubsmeister]

Evidence itself shows that you did not even notice me sending the text and I did not die as a result of sending it. Infact the opposite happened: help came and I was saved. As can clearly be seen in the video below I wait until you are too focussed on robbing Bitsy with sending the text. This clearly works because up until now you yourself admitted you didn't even know I sent any texts: You accused us of metagaming. 

TL;DR: I was faced with a choice: ask for help and risk you finding out, or do nothing and bleed out and die. ICly I made a logical choice, which is once again proven by the fact that I survived and you did not. 

 

On a side note, since you wanted to drag me into this anyway, at the end of this clip you can clearly be seen mixing OOC and IC. You are counting down a frisk in VOIP, which is in clear violation of the rules.

[Lucass_Sanchez]

I noticed you sending the text tho, its on my 1st screenshot too, I didnt react on that because i would waste some seconds to kill u ( I was alone and couldnt risk ) I just wanted the bag of the girl...

about the OOC mix, i fucked up saying that in /b , i knew i shouldnt do it 

i typed in /b something else before the count down, so i typed /b again when i started to count... didnt realize it was on /b

I figured out when u said it after that and it was too late

so yeah, my bad on OOC - Didnt realize that i put /b before "5 seconds"

 

Edited December 24, 2018 by Lucass_Sanchez

[Hazel]

Thank you for the report @JayGamble

 

Could either side provide a longer clip that includes the whole situation from the robbery to the situation where the people were chased on the bike by the contender?

 

Kind Regards,

- Hazel | Senior Support

Edited January 7, 2019 by Hazel

[Lucass_Sanchez]

I dont have any footages about this now bc i delete my videos every 2 days

 

[Rubsmeister]

There is a 15 min time period between the robbery on the highway and him shooting Jay on his motorbike. Obviously, neither of us recorded that period because nothing happened. You can however easily tell how much time passed by reading the times on the phone. You can clearly tell that it hasn’t been over 30 minutes yet. Lucass also admits this here:

On 12/21/2018 at 12:44 PM, Lucass_Sanchez said:

I died by an accident on the highway, that u or another guy rammed me with ur bike when i was in the mid of highway

 

In your video its obvious that we didnt say anything

But the thing is, we said it 3 times

I can upload the video too if needed, u can hear us from my video that we sait stop,hands up...

 

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Also want to add:

That my death was because of your guys rule break

I was robbing 2 of you, while 1 of them was injured and the other one surrendered.

while im robbing the other guy, the injured guy sends a text on his phone.

And all of the zetas guys came to the scene in 2 Seconds, literally 2 seconds.

this is how they killed me before the video Jay gamble uploaded.

 

To that being the case. He tries to talk right that he broke NLR by saying he died “to a rulebreak”.

 

TL:DR; There is no extra evidence available for obvious reasons, but that’s not necessary. The rulebreak is evident from the evidence provided.

Zilian Dent

Edited January 7, 2019 by Rubsmeister

[Lucass_Sanchez]

I said i died by a rule breach, i didnt say i broke NLR

I dont remember how much time it was after i died

But i remember when i died i didnt have a gun, i went to take a gun from my house... so when i met jaygamble was not when i respawned

Jaygamble reported me for NLR, so i think he has the evidence with /time

Edited January 7, 2019 by Lucass_Sanchez

[Rubsmeister]

32 minutes ago, Lucass_Sanchez said:

I said i died by a rule breach, i didnt say i broke NLR

I dont remember how much time it was after i died

But i remember when i died i didnt have a gun, i went to take a gun from my house... so when i met jaygamble was not when i respawned

Jaygamble reported me for NLR, so i think he has the evidence with /time

So you admit to it being in a timespan shorter then 6 hours, meaning that it wouldn’t have been a full ingame day yet and that the ingame phones can be used to determine the time that has passed. As I stated previously, when using the phones you can clearly see only 15 real life minutes have passed between you dying and you shooting Jay again.

On that note, even if you didn’t break NLR it would have still been DM, as you never showed any reasonable effort to make your demands heard (/me rolls down the window or anything of the sort) and just started shooting right away.

In this case however, you broke both those rules. 

[Lucass_Sanchez]

Both vehicles were not moving, and we said it in VOIP and typed to stop....

If you watch my POV, you will see that its not DM

https://streamable.com/q03x7

[Lucass_Sanchez]

4 hours ago, Rubsmeister said:

So you admit to it being in a timespan shorter then 6 hours, meaning that it wouldn’t have been a full ingame day yet and that the ingame phones can be used to determine the time that has passed. As I stated previously, when using the phones you can clearly see only 15 real life minutes have passed between you dying and you shooting Jay again.

On that note, even if you didn’t break NLR it would have still been DM, as you never showed any reasonable effort to make your demands heard (/me rolls down the window or anything of the sort) and just started shooting right away.

In this case however, you broke both those rules. 

Thats not true, if more than a day passed

Time starts over, so in reality it could've been several real hours.

Phone doesnt prove anything, please show /time screenshot.

[JayGamble]

PROOF OF DEATH

https://streamable.com/lrdjc

FOOTAGE LEADING UP TO NLR/DM

https://streamable.com/zdv4w



It was about 10 minutes, good luck arguing this one Lucas!

Edited January 7, 2019 by JayGamble

[Lucass_Sanchez]

You uploaded 9-10 mins, and you dont upload 30 secs before when im robbing a member/friend of your gang

you were not there, you arrived and rammed me with your bike when you had 190 kmph

its obvious on my screenshots

second screenshot when you are on topspeed

then third one when you passed me and i got rammed

You didnt have KOS on me, and you couldnt have KOS because of the information you had

you had max speed with your bike when you were coming, then you decided to ram me over with it

Im sure if you have 9 minutes video of this, you have the 30 seconds before too

[JayGamble]

This is you threatening me earlier in the day, amongst other various conflicts we had. We were back and forth 24/7, and you're in the process of robbing someone. Yeah, you got knocked down by my bike. You're taking her stuff, as well as Zilian's stuff who was down in the corner with a gun in your hand.

[Hazel]

Hello again,

 

After a careful review of the footage with a higher staff member and a discussion with another one we have come to the following conclusion:

 

Mask 3379_7029 // Lucass Sanchez will receive 60 minutes of admin jail for his first offence New Life Rule offence. ( NLR #1 | Normal ). Being killed due to what you thought was a rule break is not a valid reason to break NLR.

Mask 3379_7029 // Lucass Sanchez will also receive a permanent ban for his fifth Deathmatching offence. ( DM #5 | Major ). As NLR was in effect your character had absolutely no reason to shoot at Jay or Bitsy and your only reason to shoot them was to get revenge.

 

Kind Regards,

- Hazel | Senior Support

 

Report Accepted &' Archived