Incisiive Posted December 19, 2018 Report Share Posted December 19, 2018 Player(s) being reported: Randy Wolf 1462_3701 Date of rule breach: 2018-12-18 Time of rule breach: ~10:30pm UTC +2 Your characters name: Mia Fazio Other players involved: Seen in video Specific rule broken: " 7.3 Vehicle deathmatch 6.6 Non-roleplay 7.2 Deathmatch " How did the player break the rule?: So we got one of the Randy's guys injured at the beach, he did not saw it, I came out from the car and Randy for no reason VDM'ed me with a bike, then he went to the bush and started to shoot at me and my friends for no kind of reason. I was not involved in any kind of shootout. Evidence of rule breach: https://plays.tv/video/5c19e5a18df217b5f7/-?from=user 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chrisy Posted December 19, 2018 Report Share Posted December 19, 2018 (edited) Hey, I'm Collie Fegan. In the video I'm in the video also being shot at during this and I have more evidence off this to add to the report. https://streamable.com/s59jf Edited December 19, 2018 by Chrisy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Titan95 Posted December 19, 2018 Report Share Posted December 19, 2018 (edited) Alright, let me start by saying you and your gang had been chasing me and my friends for like 15 minutes before this footage your showing, in that time, you guys killed 2 of our members, that apart we started to rob one of your members on the highway and ended up killing him then i go behind some rocks to eat a burger, while eating i see your gang found us again, so i see all of you chasing patryk and shooting him with aks and pistol, on top of that he even radios me twice to confirm its him being shot at by your gang. Your footage is just way too short and does not show everything that happened before this, but however the chat in your footage confirms this has been going on for a while and that you were indeed involved in this, if you pause your video at 0:01 you can see yourself in radio, confirming you were chasing us. "We were chasing one of them". We all know this was a huge gang shootout and you took advantage of this exact moment knowing it would be hard for me to explain. but luckly i do have a short shadowplay recording of the fight, and in that footage i do see my friend Patryk being harmed, infact with aks and pistols load and clear and on top radio call from him, thus making the VDM and DM FALSE 7.2.2 Examples of valid reasons to attack another player: • If they attempt to harm, hurt you or damage your property (or if they attempt to do the same to your friends or allies), this also includes an attempt by the police to arrest someone; If you however still think im wrong, please prove me wrong with proof and not just words. About the non-roleplay, i dont know if i should even waste my time explaning but will. So i assume its because i went up the hill with my bike ? Now imagine yourself in this situation in real life, theres about 7 people and most of them armed with heavy weapons, was i supposed to get off my bike in the highway and start shooting at them ? that would not only be non-rp but also slightly fearrp since i am not a terminator. what my character did was the smartest he could have done, drive up a small hill with enough speed and momentum, park it and start shooting from cover and bushes for extra safety. Just because i touch the snow or a hill does not mean its non-rp immediately, or else the whole server would be banned, the bike handles bad and loses its speed and is dangerous to drive on hills, but i was in a life and death situation, none of that worried me. so hopefully you understand my point here, that does not make it non-rp, since my bike was able to get up the small hill, and so would it in real life, with enough speed. Here is my POV, as you can see. i did see my friend being chased and shot. 1 hour ago, Chrisy said: Hey, I'm Collie Fegan. In the video I'm in the video also being shot at during this and I have more evidence off this to add to the report. https://streamable.com/s59jf That is the footage i uploaded to show my view. so your on my side im guessing, thanks for understanding. Edited December 19, 2018 by Titan95 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Titan95 Posted December 19, 2018 Report Share Posted December 19, 2018 The rules does not say i need to see him get injured, all i need is confirmation that he is being harmed, and this i had long before this situation, since you guys were chasing, ramming, shoooting at us way before this happened, but even without that, this is more then enough reason to shoot you guys. since my friend, my gang member is literally killed like 20 meters away from me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shiroq Posted December 19, 2018 Report Share Posted December 19, 2018 (edited) I was also present in this situation 16 minutes ago, Titan95 said: The rules does not say i need to see him get injured, all i need is confirmation that he is being harmed, and this i had long before this situation, since you guys were chasing, ramming, shoooting at us way before this happened, but even without that, this is more then enough reason to shoot you guys. since my friend, my gang member is literally killed like 20 meters away from me. So how did you get confirmation that it was your friend that was being shot? Nowhere in your evidence you get the confirmation that it is US that shot him. You showed up on the scene without any information besides ASSUMPTIONS that it was your friend who was being shot, you VDMED one person and then DMED her. And then started shooting at us from the mountain. Now you rammed a person with a sports bike, which completely makes no sense if you were to hit a person or anyone at high speed with a bike you would fall off yourself but then you run away and drive up at a crazy speed up a mountain with a DRAG bike. You have no proof where you actually knew it was us. In the radio all you get is "im being chased" and "4 guys" but even then that wasn't really true as there was more of us so can you truly say that you knew the full situation? You also Vdmed Mia JUST as shots were being fired which means you had the intention to hit her with your bike way before that as you clearly drove into her direction. So to sum it up you had no real confirmation that WE shot your friend, you ran someone over with a sports drag bike and then drove up the mountain to get off your bike and start shooting at people that you really didnt know what they did as you never had visual or verbal confirmation we shot your friend 7.4 Kill on sight 7.4.1 Kill on sight (KoS) is the act of killing a player with no engagement in roleplay. 7.4.2 A player is allowed to KoS someone, only for specific reasons, that are not older than 24 real world hours, and if the new life rule is followed. 7.4.3 KoS is allowed for these specific reasons: • Your life was threatened in the past (ex.: in a robbery, a combat situation or a hostage situation); • The life of your friend or ally is threatened at the present or if you have witnessed it happen in the past; • There is an attempt to steal your valuables, or those of your group, if the value of theft is not less than $75.000 (this point excludes vehicles); So yes it does state in the rules that you need to witness harm being done to your friends before you can actually shoot at them Edited December 19, 2018 by shiroq Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Titan95 Posted December 19, 2018 Report Share Posted December 19, 2018 8 minutes ago, shiroq said: • The life of your friend or ally is threatened at the present or if you have witnessed it happen in the past; I honestly dont know what part you guys dont understand, me, my friend, my gangs life were not only threatened but taken, you guys were fighting us for the past 15-20 minutes before this incident happened, so dont act like none of that happened and just use this as the only initiation. She says she is not involved in ANY SHOOTOUT, but she was indeed involved in chasing us and shooting at us. what else you want from me?`?? i wont bother replyng anymore, either show the admin the full situation go down, since you guys reported me. i clearly used my time and effort to show and proove that i did nothing against the rules. did you guys even read what i wrote. let the admin decide, as im sure he understands best since he will be neutral and have no ooc hate against me, hopefully. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shiroq Posted December 19, 2018 Report Share Posted December 19, 2018 what do you mean by US? We are not wearing any masks, or any other indications of us being a group. And once again you are not sharing any evidence to prove that you had a reason to shoot at us Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Titan95 Posted December 19, 2018 Report Share Posted December 19, 2018 (edited) Benny, in what way have i offended you IC'ly ? to have this hate against me OOC ? i apologise for what ever ive told you IC'ly but just please, dont bring it OOC. i have nothing against you or your gang. but everytime we have a nice IC interaction and you guys lose slightly, you report us, This week 2 of your members reports have been denied for not enough evidence shown. as i said, contact me on discord, so we can sort out those emotions of yours, and hopefully defuse this ooc hate. No matter how hard i try, how many precautions i take, you guys still report. its at a point where it is very annoying. Edited December 19, 2018 by Titan95 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chrisy Posted December 19, 2018 Report Share Posted December 19, 2018 I'm not on your side considering I was one off the people you were trying to shoot. Also for the record your guy on the beach, he only stated that there was 4 off us there. You didn't see or hear that we were doing anything. @Titan95 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Titan95 Posted December 19, 2018 Report Share Posted December 19, 2018 What part dont you understand, this IC situation had been going on for 15-20 minutes before this happened, since the beginning i had KOS on all of you for shooting and killing 2 of my friends, which i witnessed, that already gave me KOS.. but you are making this report short as the footage is. why else would your gang have KOS on Patryk,me,Sinn, Nathan but when i killed 1 of you, you guys make a nonsense report. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flucifial Posted January 5, 2019 Report Share Posted January 5, 2019 Hello, Thank you for making this report. After reviewing the evidence provided and the claims to support each side, I have decided to reject this report due to my reasonable doubt. Randy_Wolf had a valid reason for KOS, as he did in-fact witness a group of players shooting his friends. Whilst there is no evidence to support the fact that the reporting party and her group had been chasing him for a while, likely shooting at him, I am more inclined to believe that this did in fact happen, rather than it didn't, given the hostile nature of this roleplay scenario. This report will be locked and archived due to this conclusion. Kindest Regards, Flucifial Eclipse Roleplay Administrator 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
