Hotpockets008 Posted November 12, 2018 Report Share Posted November 12, 2018 (edited) Just this recent week the Three Bolters has disbanded because a member of the gang shared nudes without consent over Discord to another member. Yet the person who did this was not punished. Yet its possible to get banned from the server for insulting some one OOCly. I believe, and hope that the Eclipse Staff can some how create a new rule to add with the Harassment Rule. Sexual Harassment either through OOC means, or through Discord groups linked to Eclipse in some form. With evidence showing it happen, should be dealt with by giving the person committing the sexual harassment a permanent Ban. I hope that this rule can some how be implemented to prevent online sexual predators who will use this server to exploit women. Though its every ones responsibility to control who you interact with. Please be careful who you decide to associate with through discord or some means outside the game, as the internet is full of fucked up sexual predators that will do what ever they can to exploit women. Though its a parents responsibility to control what their child sees. I know there are people who could be underaged who rp on this server, and who will rp on this server as it grows. It'd be good to have a rule to prevent predators using Eclipse to exploit underaged people. Thankyou for reading this. Edited November 12, 2018 by Hotpockets008 14 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zoloft Posted November 12, 2018 Report Share Posted November 12, 2018 A HUGE +1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryumdar Posted November 12, 2018 Report Share Posted November 12, 2018 100% agree, hence I quit over it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shannon Posted November 12, 2018 Report Share Posted November 12, 2018 (edited) +1 It should be clear that sexually harassing someone OOC should result in a temp ban / perma (depending on how serious) as its harassment and makes people (especially females) to not want to play. You need consent IC to do anything sexual, yet no clear rule written against it in OOC. Harassment Rules 4.1.1 It is prohibited to leak personal information of another person or to make such threats. An attempt to break this rule will result in an immediate permanent ban. 4.1.2 It is prohibited to intimidate players from playing on the server or to continuously harass them in the game for OOC reasons to purposely make their game experience miserable. According to the rules, unless it happens multiple times, then it isnt breaking any rules. Edited November 13, 2018 by Shannon 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryumdar Posted November 13, 2018 Report Share Posted November 13, 2018 The admins have logs of someone saying No on discord THREE times an then still get harassed an given a dick pic, they wont ban they guy just told me "didn't happen IG so doesn't matter" so how many children play this game? Yeah think they ne4d to fix that shit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hotpockets008 Posted November 13, 2018 Author Report Share Posted November 13, 2018 (edited) Something that makes the RP more immersive on this server is VOIP. Which in and of itself used in communications can allow predators or people seeking to exploit women the opportunity to do so because they know the person is a woman. They will purposely go out of their way to figure out some way to find loop holes and communicate with them outside the game either through mostly Discord or some other platform similar. I hope a rule could be implemented to prevent this from happening in OOC terms. Predators on the internet will do what ever they can to get what they want, and its possible that if they succeed the law could get involved, and get the server in trouble if it was linked. Like if the predator finds out where the person lives, and something happens. VOIP is a dead give away for predators to discern women, and exploit them. This isn't a strictly text based RP server, and RP is mostly done through text, and VOIP on Eclipse. This opens the door for predators to take advantage. Edited November 13, 2018 by Hotpockets008 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cman3803 Posted November 13, 2018 Report Share Posted November 13, 2018 +1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hotpockets008 Posted November 13, 2018 Author Report Share Posted November 13, 2018 Though ultimately its up to the person being exploited to decide to ignore the predator, but some people are too young, and don't know better. The internet is really dangerous, and I hope Eclipse can implement rules to make the server safer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AntonyJ Posted November 13, 2018 Report Share Posted November 13, 2018 +2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hotpockets008 Posted November 13, 2018 Author Report Share Posted November 13, 2018 3 hours ago, Ryumdar said: The admins have logs of someone saying No on discord THREE times an then still get harassed an given a dick pic, they wont ban they guy just told me "didn't happen IG so doesn't matter" so how many children play this game? Yeah think they ne4d to fix that shit Just because it didn't happen in game, A member of our Club which in and of itself is linked to the Eclipse Server committed the action. Even if it didn't happen in game its still linked to Eclipse as the predator is still on the server. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zoloft Posted November 13, 2018 Report Share Posted November 13, 2018 This is the type of shit that people deal with on the day to day basis, (I've got permission from the person who was sexually harassed to post this) this needs to be against the rules. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryumdar Posted November 13, 2018 Report Share Posted November 13, 2018 Eclipse, where all the RP sex pests and sexual harassers can pay a nominal fee of 10Euro an get away with it because the admins don't care if you are assaulted, harassed or bullied in anyway, gotta get that money yo 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cbcfire Posted November 13, 2018 Report Share Posted November 13, 2018 +1 100% agree here 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George Vern Posted November 13, 2018 Report Share Posted November 13, 2018 (edited) Abso-f*cking-lutely. It's disgusting to even consider that this shit happens, in a place where we're all just spending our time and having fun. A solid +1 from me as well. Edited November 13, 2018 by George Vern 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashbringer Posted November 13, 2018 Report Share Posted November 13, 2018 +100. Anyone who agrees to do anything sexual in any sort of way, without the other person agreeing with it, should be instantly permantly banned. It makes it a horrible experience for women to play on this server and boy do we need women on this server for better roleplay. Example of my experience so far: I mean the admins are really not strict on this. These little sexual frustrated boys needs some taming. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
"Sugah" Posted November 13, 2018 Report Share Posted November 13, 2018 (edited) @HiVe_Zoloft please thank the person who allowed you to post that. Clearly shown IN GAME, sexual harassment. As one of the few women on the server who is actually known to be a woman out of character. and one of two female officers in the Three Bolters MC I was there when the event mentioned by the original poster happened. I had panicked calls from my boyfriend who wanted my logs with the person immediately. He combed through them for evidence of foul play. It's ridiculous that I as a woman have to fear any male that i add to my discord. It's ridiculous that I feel like i have to have my boyfriend vet all the males. The eclipse admins have a duty to protect their player base, whether free to play, VIP, admin or normal person. I feel like they failed in not punishing this person. Also +1 on this post. Edited November 13, 2018 by "Sugah" 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hotpockets008 Posted November 13, 2018 Author Report Share Posted November 13, 2018 (edited) Community Security should extend beyond just on the server, as people have discord communites formed to keep each other informed as to keep in touch. This in and of itself could allow predators to exploit some one who they know in game who is a woman, through Discord and harass them through discord, and sexually exploit them. As the current rules are made there is no punishment against this, and there should be if people can get banned for making ooc threats, and harass oocly. It should be bannable to sexually harass oocly. Though it wasn't on the server or through roleplay. A member of Eclipse who we invited into our discord, sexually harassed another member of Eclipse through Discord, and sent nudes without consent. With evidence proven and shown. This should be bannable to prevent predators from continueing to do this, and to keep sexual predators off the server. Cause they'll just keep coming, and playing as different characters. Edited November 13, 2018 by Hotpockets008 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MagnusPhenix Posted November 13, 2018 Report Share Posted November 13, 2018 +1 Even as someone who is banned from the server I will take the time to say the admins should bow their heads in shame. Literally not giving a damn about this matter show what kind of people they must be and how little they must care about protecting their community. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Femo Posted November 13, 2018 Report Share Posted November 13, 2018 Eclipse needs to be a lot more strict when it comes to these kind of situations and people. some people are clearly not here to role play, in fact they just are ruining others experiences through their behavior . when it comes to this kind of situations no warning and permanent ban would do the job instantly specially OOC stuff. let this be a start for them to realize how to behave around different people. +1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Psychas Posted November 13, 2018 Report Share Posted November 13, 2018 +100 on this, admins don't forget that that happened coz of the Eclipse RP server, thats where they met, that means there should be perm bans for situations like that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BallinByNature Posted November 13, 2018 Report Share Posted November 13, 2018 Please feel free to PM me the evidence you have of harassment of players. It's obviously not tolerated, however, it is also the duty of any person to explain that they do not want to be contacted OOCly if someone makes them feel uncomfortable. I personally have not seen any of the evidence mentioned above, but would like to if its true. If a person is told not to contact you OOCly, and continues to do so using Eclipse platforms, we will obviously take action against that person. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryumdar Posted November 13, 2018 Report Share Posted November 13, 2018 1 minute ago, BallinByNature said: Please feel free to PM me the evidence you have of harassment of players. It's obviously not tolerated, however, it is also the duty of any person to explain that they do not want to be contacted OOCly if someone makes them feel uncomfortable. I personally have not seen any of the evidence mentioned above, but would like to if its true. If a person is told not to contact you OOCly, and continues to do so using Eclipse platforms, we will obviously take action against that person. Translation: We don't care because we might not be liable, please carry on harassing others as long as you take them out of our survice first, please give us VIP kthxbye Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BallinByNature Posted November 13, 2018 Report Share Posted November 13, 2018 2 minutes ago, Ryumdar said: Translation: We don't care because we might not be liable, please carry on harassing others as long as you take them out of our survice first, please give us VIP kthxbye So if someone claims you sexually harassed them we should ban you without asking for evidence of it? All I am saying is if what you say really happened, then please feel free to show me so I can act on it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryumdar Posted November 13, 2018 Report Share Posted November 13, 2018 You have the Evidence, of her saying NO three times, if you had that on me? Yes I'd like for you to ban me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BallinByNature Posted November 13, 2018 Report Share Posted November 13, 2018 I do not have any such evidence, as I said, please feel free to share it with me. There seems to be a disconnect in what you evidence you believe you reported and the evidence that was actually given, as the content you're suggesting does not appear in the evidence I have, which is why I am asking you to re-share any evidence you think I should have to review the situation. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
