FearRP Mask 9234_9900

[Sten_Lohk]

Player(s) being reported:Mask 9234_9900
Date of rule breach:14.10.2018
Time of rule breach:18:41 UTC+3

Your characters name:Tomba Oksa
Other players involved:The Serpents

Specific rule broken:
"7.1.1 Fear roleplay is the concept of roleplaying fear for your character’s life in situations where your safety is in immediate
danger when the attacker is in a position to quickly end your life at will. This can come in a form of having a weapon
aimed at your character’s head at close range, where reaching for your own weapon would result in you being killed
instantly, or where your life is in direct danger and any attempt to resist would result in your immediate death.

 7.1.2 Examples, where your character’s life is considered to be in direct danger:
 When you are on foot and a weapon is aimed at you at close range"

How did the player break the rule?:4 Guns was pointed at him but he decided to pull out his gun and try to injure us or to kill us which is 1vs4.

Evidence of rule breach:

[Flucifial]

Hello and thank you for making this report.

Shayan_Klep (Mask 9234_9900) will have twenty-four (24) hours to respond with their side of the story!

-Flucifial

[Psych0neurotic]

According to rule 7.1.3.3, my life is not in danger if the attacker is distracted and they turn their back on me. As it's evident in the video, on 00:02, Every single one of the attackers turn their back on me at the exact same time and stop aiming at me , for 1.6-2 solid seconds. Average human reaction time is 0.25 seconds, so I had more than enough time to get my gun out and start attacking. I expected the other 4 people, including James and the 3 vagos to start attacking you too, which would outnumber you in a 4v5 situation and almost guarantee us to win the fight but no one actually reacted. Either way, next time don't turn away from a guy you have at gunpoint and stare at the street. It's unrealistic

 

https://gyazo.com/d2d347d92c859c5a730f7a827058faef Dude in white turning away

https://gyazo.com/d919bd5a6c8a65e96f7dca551eac2084 Dude in black aiming at James instead of me

https://gyazo.com/abffe1a47cd69ecad48d23b6d772f785 Dude in yellow aiming at James instead of me

 

 

Edited October 18, 2018 by Psych0neurotic
Picture as proof

[xCKube]

The vagos guys got everything robbed off them and your friend had his gun taken as well, so you we're the only one with a weapon there at the time which means it was 1v4 situation.
In my point of view, Ma boy behind the windsor still had his gun pointed at you.

 

[Psych0neurotic]

22 minutes ago, xCKube said:

The vagos guys got everything robbed off them and your friend had his gun taken as well, so you we're the only one with a weapon there at the time which means it was 1v4 situation.

Unfortunately, unlike how you meta-gamed and literally kept typing OOC stuff in IC chat after Collie and Shadow gunned you down at the gas station, I don't metagame. I made a safe assumption that if I had my gun, then the rest of the people should've had their guns too.

According to rule 7.1.2.1, "Ya boi" has to be aiming at me at close range. I don't care if he was aiming at me or at James, it was nowhere near close enough to even remotely trigger to FearRP, especially with him riding a Vagos car with Vagos outfit after he started firing at me I realise he was with you

[xCKube]

1st of all, i don't know what gas station event you are talkin' about, if you think i metagamed there then go ahead and report me.
2nd, if you thought he was with vagos, why would he just stand there aiming at you and your friend if he is your ally. He was one of the guys who told you to put up your hands if you can't remember btw. 
3rd you saw me taking your friends weapon and those three were against the wall, i think most would think that those guys we're already robbed of their belongings.

If you watch my video then "Gandalf Jones" was aiming at you when you took out your weapon but he started aiming at your friend. IMO "Ma boi" wasn't even that far away, if we start talking about real life like you did then he could put a bullet in your head in a second if you tried anything from that distance.

Edited October 18, 2018 by xCKube

[Psych0neurotic]

34 minutes ago, xCKube said:

1st of all, i don't know what gas station event you are talkin' about, if you think i metagamed there then go ahead and report me.

Sten was the one that meta-gamed in the gas station. I don't have it recorded but it's in his logs. A simple search would do the job. But that's not what we're here for.

34 minutes ago, xCKube said:

2nd, if you thought he was with vagos, why would he just stand there aiming at you and your friend if he is your ally. He was one of the guys who told you to put up your hands if you can't remember btw. 

He was aiming at our direction and not firing a bullet, so in my head, I was thinking "What the hell is he doing" but I didn't put my thought into it. Of course, I suspected that he might be one of the Vagos betraying the rest of them, but the probability was low. He wasn't one of the guys that told me to put my hands up if he was, I did not hear him. 

34 minutes ago, xCKube said:

3rd you saw me taking your friends weapon and those three were against the wall, i think most would think that those guys we're already robbed of their belongings.

I didn't see anyone take anyone's weapons. I've seen Tyrone and his people carry SNS before, I was hoping this would be one of those times.

34 minutes ago, xCKube said:

If you watch my video then "Gandalf Jones" was aiming at you when you took out your weapon but he started aiming at your friend

So you're telling me I should get punished for your friend's stupidity? Kind of unfair, don't you think?

34 minutes ago, xCKube said:

IMO "Ma boi" wasn't even that far away,

I've been in similar situations when "Ya boi" was "Ma boi" and when I asked an admin to deal with the situation, I was told the distance wasn't "close range".

34 minutes ago, xCKube said:

if we start talking about real life like you did then he could put a bullet in your head in a second if you tried anything from that distance.

If we start talking about real life, a gang of 4 people who can't aim and take 6 seconds to kill 1 person in a "1v4" situation shouldn't go around attacking the strongest gangs in the city and then get wiped as the result.
 

Either way, according to 7.1.3.3, All of you turned away from me so I wasn't under Fear of my life anymore as there was nothing to be scared of. What was I supposed to be fearful of, the fact that you have guns that aren't pointed at me?

[xCKube]

13 minutes ago, Psych0neurotic said:

Sten was the one that meta-gamed in the gas station. I don't have it recorded but it's in his logs. A simple search would do the job. But that's not what we're here for.

Then don't accuse me.

13 minutes ago, Psych0neurotic said:

He was aiming at our direction and not firing a bullet, so in my head, I was thinking "What the hell is he doing" but I didn't put my thought into it. Of course, I suspected that he might be one of the Vagos betraying the rest of them, but the probability was low. He wasn't one of the guys that told me to put my hands up if he was, I did not hear him. 

If you really want me to render i can show you that he was one of the guys who was aiming at you and your friend from the start and telling you to put up your hands.

13 minutes ago, Psych0neurotic said:

So you're telling me I should get punished for your friend's stupidity? Kind of unfair, don't you think?

It's just a point that you shouldn't have taken out your gun when he was pointing at you, your gun was out when he turned away from you.

13 minutes ago, Psych0neurotic said:

I've been in similar situations when "Ya boi" was "Ma boi" and when I asked an admin to deal with the situation, I was told the distance wasn't "close range".

Feels bad man.

13 minutes ago, Psych0neurotic said:

If we start talking about real life, a gang of 4 people who can't aim and take 6 seconds to kill 1 person in a "1v4" situation shouldn't go around attacking the strongest gangs in the city and then get wiped as the result.
 

Either way, according to 7.1.3.3, All of you turned away from me so I wasn't under Fear of my life anymore as there was nothing to be scared of. What was I supposed to be fearful of, the fact that you have guns that aren't pointed at me?

6 seconds to kill a person in real life, hmmm, cause desync exists in real life. Strongest gangs? Cmon, you only invite people to your gangs to make them bigger and that means you win by using bigger numbers.

Cause in real life if 4 people are robbing you and they turn away for a millisecond you would try to take out your weapon to kill all of them, even though the guns are still pointed your way.

Edited October 18, 2018 by xCKube

[Psych0neurotic]

14 minutes ago, xCKube said:

Then don't accuse me.

By "you" I meant your guys not specifically you, I chose my words badly, sorry.

14 minutes ago, xCKube said:

If you really want me to render i can show you that he was one of the guys who was aiming at you and your friend from the start and telling you to put up your hands.

Yes, I do want you to render. It helps clear the air a bit more. It might not have an effect on the final decision but it gives us both ease of mind.

14 minutes ago, xCKube said:

It's just a point that you shouldn't have taken out your gun when he was pointing at you, your gun was out when he turned away from you

I got my gun out as soon as he was turning away from me, not before.

14 minutes ago, xCKube said:

Feels bad man.

It actually really did feel bad, I wanted the guy punished as well.

14 minutes ago, xCKube said:

6 seconds to kill a person in real life, hmmm, cause desync exists in real life. Strongest gangs? Cmon, you only invite people to your gangs to make them bigger and that means you win by only using bigger numbers.

If desync didn't exist I would've headshotted you and then dealt with the rest of your guys. I am not in a gang myself buddy, I'm talking about when you attacked Shadow Cartel, Mercia, Irish, Vagos and Zetas for some unknown bloody reason.

14 minutes ago, xCKube said:

Cause in real life if 4 people are robbing you and they turn away for a millisecond you would try to take out your weapon to kill all of them, even though the guns are still pointed your way.

Not a millisecond, Almost you gave me x7 more time than I needed to execute an action. I've made a name for myself in town for having a good aim and being ruthless, so dealing with you wouldn't be a problem if desync wasn't a thing. Again, I must repeat myself:

3 hours ago, Psych0neurotic said:

According to rule 7.1.3.3, my life is not in danger if the attacker is distracted and they turn their back on me. As it's evident in the video, on 00:02, Every single one of the attackers turn their back on me at the exact same time and stop aiming at me

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[xCKube]

19 minutes ago, Psych0neurotic said:

Yes, I do want you to render. It helps clear the air a bit more. It might not have an effect on the final decision but it gives us both ease of mind.

There ya go mate.

19 minutes ago, Psych0neurotic said:

I got my gun out as soon as he was turning away from me, not before.

First picture is when you took your gun out and the second is when he is turning away while your gun is out already. + When i think about it, you took out your weapon while your hands were up...

21 minutes ago, Psych0neurotic said:

If desync didn't exist I would've headshotted you and then dealt with the rest of your guys. I am not in a gang myself buddy, I'm talking about when you attacked Shadow Cartel, Mercia, Irish, Vagos and Zetas for some unknown bloody reason.

You would've died since you didn't fear for your life, yes you would have taken me with you but you would still have died.

4 hours ago, Psych0neurotic said:

According to rule 7.1.3.3, my life is not in danger if the attacker is distracted and they turn their back on me. As it's evident in the video, on 00:02, Every single one of the attackers turn their back on me at the exact same time and stop aiming at me ,

To be honest we never turned our backs to you, yes we turned away from you for second or two but the gun barrel was still in your direction most of the time.

[Flucifial]

I am now ready to conclude this report.

In the video, Shayan_Klep (Mask 9234_9900) is surrounded by armed men, whether the focus is on you or not, there are multiple people armed, against you, you would obviously lose in a gunfight here. Our Fear Roleplay rule states the following:

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Fear roleplay is the concept of roleplaying fear for your character’s life in situations where your safety is in immediate danger when the attacker is in a position to quickly end your life at will. This can come in a form of having a weapon aimed at your character’s head at close range, where reaching for your own weapon would result in you being killed instantly, or where your life is in direct danger and any attempt to resist would result in your immediate death.

Again, being that you were surrounded by armed men, whether a gun be pointed at you in close range or not, reaching for your weapon would obviously result in you being killed, which is how it happened in both videos. 

Shayan_Klep (Mask 9234_9900) will receive a ten (10) minute administration jail for their second minor offense of Fear Roleplay.

Report Accepted/Archived

-Flucifial