HaminLord Posted October 13, 2018 Report Share Posted October 13, 2018 Player(s) being reported: Mask 4242_5064 Date of rule breach: 12/10/2018 Time of rule breach: 2:36 PM (UK Time) Your characters name: Yuval Gotlin Other players involved: none Specific rule broken: 7.2 Deathmatch 7.2.3 A player cannot kill their victim, if the victim is in compliance with the demands. How did the player break the rule?: After we discussed him selling an ak to me and my friend he dropped me off near chumash where he then robbed me, after complying fully with his demands he shot me. If he did think he has a KOS reason to shoot me (spesificly the rape of "Audrey_Martin" with ooc consent) was already more than 24 hours ago. Evidence of rule breach: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
verydoge12 Posted October 13, 2018 Report Share Posted October 13, 2018 (edited) Just in case someone calls us out for metagaming over discord - we weren't Yuval /pm-ed me saying he wants to discord and he also that we won't MG and he just wants to see if the person breaks any rules and you can see the video that the discord call was only 4 minutes long and Yuval never told me his location or anything like that and I haven't attempted to find the killer, thanks Edited October 13, 2018 by verydoge12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HaminLord Posted October 13, 2018 Author Report Share Posted October 13, 2018 25 minutes ago, verydoge12 said: Just in case someone calls us out for metagaming over discord - we weren't Yuval /pm-ed me saying he wants to discord and he also that we won't MG and he just wants to see if the person breaks any rules and you can see the video that the discord call was only 4 minutes long and Yuval never told me his location or anything like that and I haven't attempted to find the killer, thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krappelz Posted October 13, 2018 Report Share Posted October 13, 2018 Hi, I’m the player being reported, what I should of done before hand was make you aware that this wasn’t a robbery but an assassination attempt on your life which someone had put on your head for the reason you have already given in your report, the contract was given IG in terms of evidence of this I do not have a recording but I’m sure my friend who was also present when the contract was given does have said recording and will be gladly given once he gets back off holiday Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HaminLord Posted October 13, 2018 Author Report Share Posted October 13, 2018 (edited) 17 minutes ago, Krappelz said: Hi, I’m the player being reported, what I should of done before hand was make you aware that this wasn’t a robbery but an assassination attempt on your life which someone had put on your head for the reason you have already given in your report, the contract was given IG in terms of evidence of this I do not have a recording but I’m sure my friend who was also present when the contract was given does have said recording and will be gladly given once he gets back off holiday Thanks for the reply, if this was an assassination attempt then this is not a DM, yet the breaking of rules 7.6.2 and 7.6.3. I would still like to see the footage whenever u get it, thanks! Edited October 13, 2018 by HaminLord Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krappelz Posted October 13, 2018 Report Share Posted October 13, 2018 And as you could hear and see I only asked that you drop the radio as to stop you from giving your people our location, my goal was to make you incapable of relaying such information via radio and phone As I had a short time limit to carry this out and with you asking in /b for me to wait which could of potentially lead to meta gaming (not saying you were) I wanted to get it over and done with. To my knowledge of the assassination rule I personally don’t think any rule was broken and was done as professionally as I could with the circumstances given Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HaminLord Posted October 13, 2018 Author Report Share Posted October 13, 2018 1 minute ago, Krappelz said: And as you could hear and see I only asked that you drop the radio as to stop you from giving your people our location, my goal was to make you incapable of relaying such information via radio and phone As I had a short time limit to carry this out and with you asking in /b for me to wait which could of potentially lead to meta gaming (not saying you were) I wanted to get it over and done with. To my knowledge of the assassination rule I personally don’t think any rule was broken and was done as professionally as I could with the circumstances given I understand the reason you feared for me Metagaming as it really is suspicious for me asking you to wait a second, I'm not blaming you for that. Yet still, 7.6.3 is broken here. (Still not sure about 7.6.2 as I don't have the footage of your client, but whenever you get it then we can clear things up) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krappelz Posted October 13, 2018 Report Share Posted October 13, 2018 1 minute ago, HaminLord said: Thanks for the reply, if this was an assassination attempt then this is not a DM, yet the breaking of rules 7.6.2 and 7.6.3. I would still like to see the footage whenever u get it, thanks! I understand and will be more than happy to provide footage as soon as my friend is back off holiday, sorry for the inconvenience and apologies that I can’t provide footage at this moment, After the hit I did try to find you but with no luck nor did I remember your ID number to PM you about it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HaminLord Posted October 13, 2018 Author Report Share Posted October 13, 2018 2 minutes ago, Krappelz said: I understand and will be more than happy to provide footage as soon as my friend is back off holiday, sorry for the inconvenience and apologies that I can’t provide footage at this moment, After the hit I did try to find you but with no luck nor did I remember your ID number to PM you about it All good, hopefully all of this clears out whenever you have the footage of the client ordering the hit. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krappelz Posted October 13, 2018 Report Share Posted October 13, 2018 I’ll get in contact with the party who ordered the hit aswell and get there side of it in the mean time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ElisabethC Posted October 16, 2018 Report Share Posted October 16, 2018 Hello there, and thank you for reporting. It's been four days since @Krappelz said he'd provide evidence of the party that ordered the hit. You have another 24 hours to do so, you've had plenty of time. Thank you for your cooperation! Report pending evidence. - Boxxy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krappelz Posted October 16, 2018 Report Share Posted October 16, 2018 (edited) Id like to add the person who gave the contract was TGBDalton as stated in 7.6.2 'both client and assassin must be able to provide OOC evidence' Edited October 16, 2018 by Krappelz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ElisabethC Posted October 16, 2018 Report Share Posted October 16, 2018 @TGBDalton, can you provide said evidence? This doesn't take away that you, the assassin, should still have your own evidence to provide. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andor Posted October 16, 2018 Report Share Posted October 16, 2018 I know for a fact that dalton asked them to kill yuval for attempted rape of his wife, I said up the meeting. I dropped them off at dalton, he told me over the phone in a text message he wanted ME to tell him when it was done ( which I did ) and was suppose to pay me. It is really weird that dalton is now telling people he never thought they would actually do it. The problem with the evidence as I know of it is that person who recorded it went on holiday. Shortly after and after it was done they asked me if that was going to be a problem, I assumed it wasnt going to be since I would have expected all parties involved @HaminLord and @TGBDalton and @Krappelz to assure eachother it was done correctly and if @HaminLord wanted IC proof ( a recording ) he could have asked @TGBDalton if it was real and waited for @Krappelz his friend to come back with said recording from holiday. Honestly I dont know if my word has any weight in this but this is kinda upsetting that it had to come to a report Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krappelz Posted October 16, 2018 Report Share Posted October 16, 2018 12 minutes ago, ElisabethC said: @TGBDalton, can you provide said evidence? This doesn't take away that you, the assassin, should still have your own evidence to provide. yup i understand that, for some reason when my game crashes it stops the recording and once the game starts back up it chooses not to record and thus why i cant provide evidence of my own its not an excuse just letting you know, but again like mentioned my friend was also present and have asked him if he has it recorded, unfortunately its a waiting game on my side to see if the contract was recorded or not Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ElisabethC Posted October 17, 2018 Report Share Posted October 17, 2018 After consideration with Toony, who is assisting me on this report, we've come to a conclusion. Seeing as there is insufficient proof regarding the placement of the hit, when you were given plenty of time to provide evidence, we've decided to let this part of the report fall away. We will not be taking this aspect of the report into consideration. The original rulebreach, deathmatching, still stands tho. Seeing as in the evidence that has been provided @Krappelz is clearly seen breaching the deathmatching rule, he will recieve his first punishment for deathmatching. The victim, @HaminLord, complied with all your needs, even when you pressured him to do it quicker. May I ask that, in the future, you give your victims more time to type out a response? He barely has time to type something out, let alone think. I get that you don't want him to metagame, but that doesn't mean that he doesn't deserve a needs a moderate time to respond via text as he didn't use VOIP. Thank you for all your time, and explanations. I appreciate that you were all very civil and tried your best to explain your side. Should you feel this punishment is unjust, feel free to make a punishment appeal on the correct section. Thank you for reporting! Report accepted, and archived. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
