rawezh Posted May 31, 2022 Report Share Posted May 31, 2022 (edited) Player(s) being reported: ID 90, 79, 139, 84 it will be obvious throw my POV. Date of interaction reported: 31/5/2022. Unix time stamp from HUD: 1654025775 Your character name: Rawezh_Xula Other player(s) involved: Omer_Jafar Specific rule(s) broken: 14. Deathmatching (DM) Deathmatching is the act of attacking a player without proper IC motive and interaction. Prior interaction should include escalation such as a robbery or a report to the police. Players on foot should only be attempted to be hit by a vehicle once with a valid motive. Vehicles cannot be used as weapons in active shootouts unless where unavoidable. Players must be able to explain their reason and provide proof of prior reasoning if requested. If a player informs you that your VOIP isn't working, you must either fix your VOIP using appropriate commands (/vr 1) or use text to deliver your demands and RP. Punishment: Anything from an admin jail to an indefinite ban. How did the player break the rule(s)? (300 words maximum)\ I was getting pulled over by cops, and then I started to evade, a police chase started my passenger started shooting at the cops I was focused on the driving we got some distance and I tried to hide in an alleyway but they found us because of the heli my way got blocked off on one side and the other was about to. a cop blocked the entrance and I accidentally rammed him because I couldn't stop and I didn't think the officer will get out of the car so it was safe for me to ram the back of the car I drove into the car+ officer my car stalled I got out and immediately attempted to put my hands up as you can see it in the clip but I never got a chance and meet with bullet continuously. I never shot a bullet during this entire chase I only drove the car. Evidence of rule breach https://streamable.com/8fc3vg Edited May 31, 2022 by rawezh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frezas Posted May 31, 2022 Report Share Posted May 31, 2022 (edited) Hello, Officer Waltz here ID90 , I believe the first seconds of your video sums up why you got shot at. If needed, I will provide POV shortly as it will upload. And please upload full POV where you were running over the officers and shooting at them. Thanks for your time. Edited May 31, 2022 by Frezas Stated ID Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AEEKAY Posted May 31, 2022 Report Share Posted May 31, 2022 Hello i am directly involved. I want to ask the reporting party why he is trying to manipulate the evidence and he is not presenting the full clip from the moment that he evaded from the traffic stop and he start shooting at us. Accusing people for fake DM reports while we had DM rights the seconds you evaded and opened fire on us it not good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harveyyy Posted May 31, 2022 Report Share Posted May 31, 2022 Pending review Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harveyyy Posted May 31, 2022 Report Share Posted May 31, 2022 Thank you for your patience as we reviewed the report. Prior to concluding this report, we would like to hear statements from the player(s) as specified below: Gustavo_Waltz | ID 90 @Frezas (Notified In-Game) - Please provide your side of the story and any evidence that you may have. Cyrus_Raven | ID 79 @Cyrus Raven (Notified In-Game) - Please provide your side of the story and any evidence that you may have. Callum_Macquoid | ID 139 (Notified In-Game) - Please provide your side of the story and any evidence that you may have. Joe_Richardson | ID 84 (Notified In-Game) - Please provide your side of the story and any evidence that you may have. Rawezh_Xula | ID 67 @rawezh (Notified In-Game) - Please provide extended footage that shows the whole situation. Omar_Jafar | ID 4 (Notified In-Game) - Please provide your side of the story and any evidence that you may have. If the requested player(s) do not respond within (24) hours, this report will be concluded based on the evidence that has already been provided, to the best of our ability. Regards Moderator Harveyyy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rawezh Posted May 31, 2022 Author Report Share Posted May 31, 2022 This is all I got as I put my Nvidia experience instant reply to 2 mins. POV : https://streamable.com/ijuj6z Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyrus Raven Posted May 31, 2022 Report Share Posted May 31, 2022 (edited) Cyrus Raven here. Other responses pretty much cover it. Driver of the vehicle was arguably the one who initiated this entire scenario by evading in the first place. As his passenger shot at police there was no attempt to surrender or stop his friend. He was a direct accessory to the shootings by aiding the passenger as he shot, he then decided to ram an Officer as he tried to escape. It can also be heard in my POV Officers calling out that the vehicle had run another Officer over earlier in the pursuit. There is no DM here, you even lived, being tazed, although at that point lethal force from an IC perspective is more than authorized and OOC'ly proper escalation took place, whether you were killed/injured or lived both would have been justified outcomes. Edit: Forgot to add, I have no clue why I'm being reported for DM, not only did I initially shoot at the vehicle to disable it, but then I specifically avoided shooting the reporting party, only injuring the passenger after noticing he was still shooting at Officers after being surrounded. However, as mentioned above, this would still not constitute, in my opinion, DM considering the involvement the driver had in actively facilitating the active shooter. If anything it would be an IC issue of force used on a surrendering suspect. Edited June 1, 2022 by Cyrus Raven Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frezas Posted June 1, 2022 Report Share Posted June 1, 2022 (edited) Gustavo Waltz, Hello, Thank you for your time going through my reply. I have been called into a situation which happened by other units and in my POV you can see from the first second I responded. First thing when I entered TAC channel was transition of shots fired, suspects were fleeing and trying to take out officers on their way, (my brother Hans Waltz can provide his POV as well where he is seen getting knocked off a bike by suspects), multiple officers saying that they are either shot at or rammed. Suspects have stopped, and you can see from my video that one car was blocking an exit, suspects decided to ram an officer. Reporting person was a driver who rammed officers, and it was no sign of surrender, as well as before getting directly shot he rammed an officer. In my POV you can see I am being still shot at even when they ''surrender'', and I just return fire to the main suspect as all the officers do, all in all officers were returning fire because they were getting shot at. As well as the fact that we were authorized to neutralize a suspect who was going around the city shooting in public places, going on sidewalks, ramming others and was deemed dangerous, needed to be neutralized. Note: Please don't judge me taking a look around like a bit dumb after initial shooting, I did not understand why I was still taking damage, when suspects ''Surrendered'' it turns out they were still shooting from the car. My POV: https://streamable.com/gvmsh6 Thank you, I will respond if needed, just let me know. Edited June 1, 2022 by Frezas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigJeff73 Posted June 1, 2022 Report Share Posted June 1, 2022 (edited) Hi and thanks for taking this report … ID 84 Joe Richardson here , I believe everything has been covered in the above statements . I would like to add as being seen in the POV the individual is running over officers , ramming cruisers all whilst his passenger is shooting officers and cruisers I am extremely confused how this is being reported as DM as there was plenty of justified reason for the officers to retaliate after being actively shot / rammed and run over. If anything else is need please reach out , thank you! Edited June 1, 2022 by BigJeff73 Spelling Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StarkyHero Posted June 1, 2022 Report Share Posted June 1, 2022 Callum Macquoid ID 139 here, I believe everyone else has summed this up pretty well. I would just like to add that the reporting party (who was the driver) rammed me and almost injured me not 30 seconds before surrendering (shown in your original footage). Id also like to mention your own footage, it shows you getting out of you vehicle while shots were still being fired from your passenger and you failed to actually surrender, you can even be seen attempting to open your weapon wheel while surrounded by guns. I believe enough footage is already provided, but if needed I can upload mine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harveyyy Posted June 1, 2022 Report Share Posted June 1, 2022 Thank you for your patience as we reviewed this report. Following review of all evidence and provided statements, I have made the decision to deny this report for the following reasons. In the context of this situation, the reporting player and his ally can be seen evading police units, in which Omar_Jafar can be seen opening fire on the reported players, posing an active threat, not only to the involved officers but also to the general public. If you're going to engage in this type of hostile RP, or be involved in it, I'm sorry, but you should expect a response of the same level of threat that you're actively posing to everyone around you. In this player report, you are claiming that you didn't shoot, and had no chance to comply, however, you've completely missed the part where you ran over an officer, and were directly and primarily part of the shooting; claiming that this is Deathmatching after everything that happened is simply false. I could even go as far as to argue that shooting the officers 3 seconds after driving off was a bit odd, let alone that you were the one to instigate the whole situation to begin with when you evaded and your friend decided to shoot the officers during this pursuit. Nobody forced Omar_Jafar to shoot the officers, his actions were done out of a free will and both of you decided to escalate this situation to deadly force; everything that was done by the officers was reactionary based on your actions; if you're going to be part of this hostility, you should expect others to be hostile towards you. Report is denied and archived. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
