Zoloft Posted October 7, 2018 Report Share Posted October 7, 2018 (edited) Player(s) being reported: Leron Davis (2051_5734), Stranger (9875_7446), Mask (9205_6726) Date of rule breach: 6/10/2018 7/10/2018 Time of rule breach: Don't have the exact time Your characters name: Ashley Burton Other players involved: Pretty much all of Mercia (Femo Jonnson, Harvey Spencer) Specific rule broken: "6.6.1 Actions that are unrealistic or promote poor quality roleplay are considered as non-roleplay. 7.2.1 Deathmatch is the act of killing or hurting another player (or damaging their property) without a proper roleplay reason. An attempt to break this rule will result in a temporary or permanent ban. 7.4.1 Kill on sight (KoS) is the act of killing a player with no engagement in roleplay. 2.3 Server bugs" How did the player break the rule?: They purposely sent in their friend into a situation where he could've got hurt to purposely bait people so that they would rob him/kill him. I believe this is failRP as you wouldn't go into a situation where you could get hurt in normal roleplay as players should value their life. I also believe they DMed as they used their mate as bait so he would get robbed so they could have a valid reason to kill us, but as I believe they aren't RPing correctly as you shouldn't go into a dangerous situation just so your friends can shoot people Finally I'd like to bring up the fact they are constantly abusing the Phantoms visual glitch to shoot out the back, knowing that no one can shoot them back this can be seen in the final video In the first video from femo's point of view you can see as soon as I log in (Ashley Burton) and they immediately start shooting at me even though I wasn't involved in the shooting this is also KOS. Notice in the first video every time they're shooting at someone in the Phantom they have the back of the Phantom facing away from us Evidence of rule breach: Yesterdays rule breaking bug abuse and non rp: https://plays.tv/video/5bb7dd610f68873a8c/footage-shootout https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fODk8aPVjrk&feature=youtu.be Today rule break. https://plays.tv/video/5bba7863ea4557fb28/leron-back-at-it-again https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5JUyfMpLNpE&feature=youtu.be Edited October 8, 2018 by HiVe_Zoloft 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shannon Posted October 7, 2018 Report Share Posted October 7, 2018 (edited) Basically what happened: (The first time) Mercia was at their gang house as usual, when a man wearing a pink top ran over to us and didn't really say much. As they were next to our house we decided to rob them as we don't like people poking around our gang house. Around 20 seconds later we all start getting shot by people on the road above us. (They shot at me Shannon Reels, even though I didn't not participate in robbing their friend and was just standing around - being in the same gang doesn't mean they should be able to shoot me.... in addition, they started shooting at Ashley Burton the moment they logged in who wasn't apart of the robbing at all as they had just logged in) We had wondered if the guy metagamed calling his friends here to shoot us but then we thought they got here too fast and knew where we all were. We realised after watching the recordings that they were up there waiting for us to hurt/rob their friend so they could DM Personally, I think sending your friend into a situation where they will most likely get harmed (they sent him here to either get robbed/hurt/killed so they would have a valid reason to DM) is Non-Rp, as he could've been hurt by us or even killed in the crossfire as they were literally shooting at people who were standing right next to him and could've accidentally shot at him. This basically happened all over again the second time with them waiting for their mate to bait us so they could gun people down from the roof. (Also I know admins say that the shooting out the phantom is a visual glitch, but it's clearly shown in the video that they are abusing this glitch as they are always facing the back of the truck towards the people they are shooting at as they know they can't hit them back). Edited October 7, 2018 by Shannon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
farayan Posted October 7, 2018 Report Share Posted October 7, 2018 (edited) I would like to also add that why the hell did that guy not die when i had shot one full magazine into his body? plus that he was already injured because my gang members had shot him. and how does he turn around and lands 4 bullets 4 head shots 100% on me? either i am really bad at aiming or this guy is a "god" .... either way i will make an refund request because this is just unbelievable how he did not die with that many shots towards him as well as another situation which happened very recently that Leron ramms all the cars with out a valid reason, which is again failure to rp, as you do not do that in real life unless your life is in danger. Edited October 7, 2018 by farayan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dashingly Posted October 7, 2018 Report Share Posted October 7, 2018 Firstly, we have an IC reason to be at that location. 14 minutes ago, HiVe_Zoloft said: They purposely sent in their friend into a situation where he could've got hurt to purposely bait people so that they would rob him/kill him. Regarding your first video, nobody forced you guys to rob him, he was sent in there to scout out what you were doing and you all pulled guns on him. Of course we would watch our friends back as he was scouting. 16 minutes ago, HiVe_Zoloft said: I also believe they DMed as they used their mate as bait so he would get robbed so they could have a valid reason to kill us, but as I believe they aren't RPing correctly as you shouldn't go into a dangerous situation just so your friends can shoot people Again, nobody forced you to rob him. He wasn't sent in there to be a "bait" for you to rob, but just to scout what you were doing. Like I said we had IC reason to be at that location and we were wondering what you guys were doing there as well. 18 minutes ago, HiVe_Zoloft said: Finally I'd like to bring up the fact they are constantly abusing the Phantoms visual glitch to shoot out the back, knowing that no one can shoot them back this can be seen in the final video This has been proved to be a desync issue and is not against the rules. On the shooters screen, it looks like he's firing out of the window. Several admins have confirmed that this is not against the rules. 20 minutes ago, HiVe_Zoloft said: In the first video from femo's point of view you can see as soon as I log in (Ashley Burton) and they immediately start shooting at me even though I wasn't involved in the shooting this is also KOS. You logged in, in the middle of a gang shootout and are now crying KOS. I doubt you even got hit by any of the bullets, you were caught in a crossfire and weren't specifically targeted. In your 2nd set of videos, you literally see Phil run away to try and avoid you guys but you followed him to try and rob him. Again we have IC reason to be in this area, nobody forced you to rob him, I was staged on the roof located near him to protect him in case shit went sour while he had a bag of goods on him. To conclude, while there is a visual desync with the truck, it has been deemed to not be a rule break by several admins. You pointing guns at my closest friends gives me reason to KOS you, and while you think he was there as a "bait" I can assure you that we have reason to be in the area. Regarding, Ashley Burton accusing Phil of KOS because she logged in during the middle of a shootout and bullets were fired in her direction is ridiculous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dashingly Posted October 7, 2018 Report Share Posted October 7, 2018 4 minutes ago, farayan said: I would like to also add that why the hell did that guy not die when i had shot one full magazine into his body? plus that he was already injured because my gang members had shot him. and how does he turn around and lands 4 bullets 4 head shots 100% on me? either i am really bad at aiming or this guy is a "god" .... don't derail this thread with ridiculous accusations of hacking, please make another report. 4 minutes ago, farayan said: as well as another situation which happened very recently that Leron ramms all the cars with out a valid reason, which is again failure to rp, as you do not do that in real life unless your life is in danger. Lol please. This video is also ridiculous and doesn't show anything except the tail end of me ramming one car out of the way so I wasn't shot dead. Make another report and don't derail this one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zoloft Posted October 7, 2018 Author Report Share Posted October 7, 2018 I could log into a gang shoot out that doesn't give any right for them to shoot me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil McGee Posted October 7, 2018 Report Share Posted October 7, 2018 (edited) @HiVe_Zoloft Were you even hit? As I don't see any shots connecting with you in that video. Also it's a bit rich your gang moaning about using a truck but you all feel it's ok to ram a semi truck in sports cars. Edited October 7, 2018 by Phil McGee Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shannon Posted October 7, 2018 Report Share Posted October 7, 2018 You can't kill/shoot people just cause they were there... Does that mean all the innocent civilians that were at lsc that were killed during the mass DM deserves it cause they were there? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zoloft Posted October 7, 2018 Author Report Share Posted October 7, 2018 1 minute ago, Phil McGee said: @HiVe_Zoloft Were you even hit? As I don't see any shots connecting with you in that video. It doesn't matter wether you hit or killed me, you still fired at me when I logged in Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zoloft Posted October 7, 2018 Author Report Share Posted October 7, 2018 I've said my side of the story you've said yours. I will now await for a staff to handle the report. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil McGee Posted October 7, 2018 Report Share Posted October 7, 2018 You were in direct crossfire of an active shootout when you logged in? Did your gang members also commit KOS in your opinion as they also shot past you at us? As far as I can tell from the footage you were not even hit so jog on ,mate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dashingly Posted October 7, 2018 Report Share Posted October 7, 2018 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Shannon said: You can't kill/shoot people just cause they were there... Does that mean all the innocent civilians that were at lsc that were killed during the mass DM deserves it cause they were there? She wasn't specifically targeted, he was shooting at the other people that were shooting at Phil. Do you see what I'm saying? Phil was shooting at somebody that was shooting at him. Somebody logged in, in between that gunfire and is now complaining that they got KOS'd? How is that on Phil? He was already firing before she logged in and she wasn't targeted, I doubt she even got hit by any of the shots. If the cops are in a shootout with 2 people robbing a convenience store, and somebody spawns in inside the convenience store while the cops are shooting at the robbers, did the cop just DM the person who spawned in (especially if the person didn't even get hit)? Edited October 7, 2018 by Dashingly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shannon Posted October 7, 2018 Report Share Posted October 7, 2018 And what's your reason for shooting me then? As I was not robbing your friend and was just standing around... or is standing around enough reason for DM now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil McGee Posted October 7, 2018 Report Share Posted October 7, 2018 4 minutes ago, Shannon said: You can't kill/shoot people just cause they were there... Does that mean all the innocent civilians that were at lsc that were killed during the mass DM deserves it cause they were there? What are you talking about, your just babbling at this point. Sit down . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
farayan Posted October 7, 2018 Report Share Posted October 7, 2018 (edited) 9 hours ago, Dashingly said: Firstly, we have an IC reason to be at that location. Regarding your first video, nobody forced you guys to rob him, he was sent in there to scout out what you were doing and you all pulled guns on him. Of course we would watch our friends back as he was scouting. Again, nobody forced you to rob him. He wasn't sent in there to be a "bait" for you to rob, but just to scout what you were doing. Like I said we had IC reason to be at that location and we were wondering what you guys were doing there as well. This has been proved to be a desync issue and is not against the rules. On the shooters screen, it looks like he's firing out of the window. Several admins have confirmed that this is not against the rules. You logged in, in the middle of a gang shootout and are now crying KOS. I doubt you even got hit by any of the bullets, you were caught in a crossfire and weren't specifically targeted. In your 2nd set of videos, you literally see Phil run away to try and avoid you guys but you followed him to try and rob him. Again we have IC reason to be in this area, nobody forced you to rob him, I was staged on the roof located near him to protect him in case shit went sour while he had a bag of goods on him. To conclude, while there is a visual desync with the truck, it has been deemed to not be a rule break by several admins. You pointing guns at my closest friends gives me reason to KOS you, and while you think he was there as a "bait" I can assure you that we have reason to be in the area. Regarding, Ashley Burton accusing Phil of KOS because she logged in during the middle of a shootout and bullets were fired in her direction is ridiculous. Do you believe that walking around a hood that is owned by the enemy, while the enemy is present there in huge numbers is considered scouting? how would you not fear going in a place where a lot of enemies are nearby? Edited October 8, 2018 by farayan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zoloft Posted October 7, 2018 Author Report Share Posted October 7, 2018 1 minute ago, Phil McGee said: What are you talking about, your just babbling at this point. Sit down . Don't be aggressive towards people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shannon Posted October 7, 2018 Report Share Posted October 7, 2018 1 minute ago, Phil McGee said: What are you talking about, your just babbling at this point. Sit down . You need to take a sit down and read the rules, someone being present in a shootout does not give you reason to start shooting at them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil McGee Posted October 8, 2018 Report Share Posted October 8, 2018 4 minutes ago, Shannon said: And what's your reason for shooting me then? As I was not robbing your friend and was just standing around... or is standing around enough reason for DM now? Point out in the videos linked what I'd you are and at what point you were gunned down and maybe I can help you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zoloft Posted October 8, 2018 Author Report Share Posted October 8, 2018 No words needed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shannon Posted October 8, 2018 Report Share Posted October 8, 2018 1 minute ago, Phil McGee said: Point out in the videos linked what I'd you are and at what point you were gunned down and maybe I can help you. Wha? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zoloft Posted October 8, 2018 Author Report Share Posted October 8, 2018 Just now, Phil McGee said: Point out in the videos linked what I'd you are and at what point you were gunned down and maybe I can help you. Maybe watch all the evidence against you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shannon Posted October 8, 2018 Report Share Posted October 8, 2018 (edited) I wasn't gunned down, I was shot, took damage and ran to get to cover as you were shooting at me for no reason. I went round trying to save everyone's stuff rather than to shoot back at you, yet you still continued to shoot me when I tried to run to safety inside the house Edited October 8, 2018 by Shannon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil McGee Posted October 8, 2018 Report Share Posted October 8, 2018 Jesus just timestamp and ID. Are you the chick sliding over the car with a gun out looting downed people who are being actively shot at and wondering why bullets might come close? Do you have no fear for your life? Are you just a mega troll? Do you have footage from your POV showing you got shot or took damage? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dashingly Posted October 8, 2018 Report Share Posted October 8, 2018 Just now, Shannon said: I wasn't gunned down, I was shot, took damage and ran to get to cover as you were shooting at me for no reason can you point out who you are in the video, and if you're not in the video can you please make a separate report. this is getting way off topic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zoloft Posted October 8, 2018 Author Report Share Posted October 8, 2018 (edited) "Scouting" is a bunch of bs if he was scouting he would be asking questions however he is just running into a crowd of people waiting for them to provoke him to give you a valid reason of KOS Edited October 8, 2018 by HiVe_Zoloft Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
