Rowze Posted May 22, 2022 Report Share Posted May 22, 2022 Player(s) being reported: ID 237 and ID 185 Date of interaction reported: 22/05/2022 Unix time stamp from HUD: 1653242645 Your character name: Lance Slash Other player(s) involved: Emma Volkov, Osiris Volkov Specific rule(s) broken: Deathmatching - Players had no prior interaction with me, nor was there any active shootouts that granted them DM rights on me which is a breach of the DM rule. How did the player break the rule(s)? (300 words maximum)\ I was being pulled over by a few police officers on the highway infront of DOC, they brought a K-9 unit to do some roleplay with me and checking my vehicle. During the time i heard on the radio that someone shot Emma and killed her. About 10-15 minutes passed and the officers let me go, so i asked on the frequency what was the situation at sealab and Osiris said that he needs a pickup so i went to pick him up. When i came there, the Elegy Custom Retro went past me without shooting a simple bullet, i saw enemies so i backed off a little bit to wait for my backup to show up. The elegy decided to circle back when i was picking up Osiris Volkov and opened fire on me without any prior escalation nor any demands given. Evidence of rule breach Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexalex303 Posted May 22, 2022 Report Share Posted May 22, 2022 PENDING RESPONSE ――――――――――――――――――――――――――――――――――― After reviewing this report and the evidence attached to it, we have decided that this report cannot be concluded at this time. We would like to receive a response from the following player(s) to explain their side of the story: @Rowze - Lance_Slash (ID 175) - Please provide an untrimmed video of the events, without removing any parts from the beginning or the end of the video. If the requested player(s) do not respond within 24 hours, this report will be concluded based on the evidence that has already been provided, to the best of our ability. Regards, alexalex303 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowze Posted May 22, 2022 Author Report Share Posted May 22, 2022 37 minutes ago, alexalex303 said: PENDING RESPONSE ――――――――――――――――――――――――――――――――――― After reviewing this report and the evidence attached to it, we have decided that this report cannot be concluded at this time. We would like to receive a response from the following player(s) to explain their side of the story: @Rowze - Lance_Slash (ID 175) - Please provide an untrimmed video of the events, without removing any parts from the beginning or the end of the video. If the requested player(s) do not respond within 24 hours, this report will be concluded based on the evidence that has already been provided, to the best of our ability. Regards, alexalex303 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chunder Posted May 22, 2022 Report Share Posted May 22, 2022 (edited) PENDING RESPONSE ――――――――――――――――――――――――――――――――――― After reviewing this report and the evidence attached to it, we have decided that this report cannot be concluded at this time. We would like to receive a response from the following player(s) to explain their side of the story: [Notified In-game] - Kai_Jurkuvenas [185] - Please explain your point of view in regard to the reported situation and provide any evidence that you may have. In addition, please explain the following: Please explain your reasoning for shooting at ID 113. [Notified In-game] - Mike_Bexter [237] - Please explain your point of view in regard to the reported situation and provide any evidence that you may have. In addition, please explain the following: Please explain your reasoning for shooting at ID 113. [Notified In-game] - Lance_Slash [113] - Do you feel that you appropriately informed them to save their footage for a report in /b. If the requested player(s) do not respond within (24) hours, this report will be concluded based on the evidence that has already been provided, to the best of our ability. Regards, Senior Support Chunder Moderator alexalex303 Edited May 22, 2022 by Chunder Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowze Posted May 22, 2022 Author Report Share Posted May 22, 2022 5 minutes ago, Chunder said: [Notified In-game] - Lance_Slash [113] - Do you feel that you appropriately informed them to save their footage for a report in /b. I have been away from the server for a while and i wasnt informed properly that i cannot inform all the players about saving POV in /b. I've been spoken to by my faction leaders that i need to inform them through /pm to save their footage and why they need to do it aswell. I apologize for the mistake Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glitch2209 Posted May 23, 2022 Report Share Posted May 23, 2022 Firstly i would like to thank all staff who are dealing with this report. Hello i am Kai_Jurkuvenas ID 185. 15 minutes prior to this situation i had entered sea labs and heard gun fire as i was passing the big metal bridge. I passed the bridge passing the gun fire and proceeded to the lab where i turned around and decided to get out of there. As i was leaving i slowed down to try to see what was happening purely for my curiosity. This is where i was shot at by a Shenzhen Dragon so i decided to flee the scene. This is where one of my friends flew in and i picked him up at Paleto. We drove back to sea labs to see if it had died down and this is where we saw the same Shenzhen Dragon who had shot me earlier and there was one more who im guessing was Lance_Slash ID 113 who was in the elegy. At this time we had both identified them as Shenzhen Dragons who we are currently on bad terms with. Then we saw the elegy try to pick up his friend who previously shot me keeping in mind that this area was still in an active shootout. This is where my passenger Mike_Bexter ID 237 started shooting Lance_Slash ID 113. We proceeded to chase the man and this is where Mike_Bexter ID 237 shot his tire and then we ended up killing him. I thought this was acceptable as one of their members started shooting me without any previous interaction. However i understand that we shouldn't have finished him and i quickly realised the mistake i made so i PM'ed Lance to try to somehow resolve the situation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glitch2209 Posted May 23, 2022 Report Share Posted May 23, 2022 Oh forgot to mention unfortunately i was not able to obtain POV Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xdkevis Posted May 23, 2022 Report Share Posted May 23, 2022 hello im Mike Bexter i was told by Kai Jurkevnas That he was shot at so he picked me up at paleto bay and we went to the place Kai jurkevnas was shot at by Shinzen Dragons and we saw one car of them and started shooting at them cuz i was told that kai jurkevnas was shot at by one of the gang members and i do not have my point of view Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zanit Posted May 23, 2022 Report Share Posted May 23, 2022 (edited) Hi, I was briefly stated in this report, my characters name is Emma Volkov, but I have some things to add. Me and Osiris were going labs together and we went to sea labs last. We went in and saw a bike coming in so we gave demands to him, so he drove to the house and started shooting us, I pushed him and we traded, leaving us both downed. Then a minute later Kai Jurkuvenas shows up out of no where getting out of his car and kicking me till I die. Kai Jurkuvenas stated he came in and heard shots, so this was not his ally I shot, also there was no escalation between us, I’ve never met Kai Jurkuvenas in game besides the time I killed him at sea labs so he wouldn’t remember that. He said he heard gun fire, he never stated this was his ally so what gave him the motive to just instantly get out of his car and finish me? This can all be checked with logs Im guessing. Not sure why he decided to leave this part out of his reply since it is a big deal and I’m pretty sure Osiris saw him looting me as well. Edited May 23, 2022 by Zanit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chunder Posted May 24, 2022 Report Share Posted May 24, 2022 PENDING RESPONSE ――――――――――――――――――――――――――――――――――― After reviewing this report and the evidence attached to it, we have decided that this report cannot be concluded at this time. We would like to receive a response from the following player(s) to explain their side of the story: [Notified In-game] - Emma_Volkov @Zanit - Do you have any evidence? If the requested player(s) do not respond within (24) hours, this report will be concluded based on the evidence that has already been provided, to the best of our ability. Regards, Senior Support Chunder Moderator alexalex303 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zanit Posted May 24, 2022 Report Share Posted May 24, 2022 (edited) here is a streamable of Kai driving up to the house, seeing me downed and finishing me. https://streamable.com/lgu35l Edited May 24, 2022 by Zanit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexalex303 Posted May 30, 2022 Report Share Posted May 30, 2022 PENDING RESPONSE ――――――――――――――――――――――――――――――――――― After reviewing this report and the evidence attached to it, we have decided that this report cannot be concluded at this time. We would like to receive a response from the following player(s) to explain their side of the story: [@Rowze] - Lance Slash [113] If you were there for a simple pickup, please explain why you decided to follow the reported players as they were exiting the lab, in addition, why does your ally state that they are very injured? [Notified In-Game] - Osiris Volkov [119] You were involved in a shootout at that location, did you call for backup or merely a simple pickup? How long had elapsed between the shots and your backup/pickup arriving? [@Zanit] - Emma Volkov [49] Please provide a video showing the entirety of the shootout including the way in which it started, as the provided video is not long enough to show the events that occurred. If the requested player(s) do not respond within (24) hours, this report will be concluded based on the evidence that has already been provided, to the best of our ability. Regards, Senior Support Chunder Moderator alexalex303 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowze Posted May 30, 2022 Author Report Share Posted May 30, 2022 3 hours ago, alexalex303 said: [@Rowze] - Lance Slash [113] If you were there for a simple pickup, please explain why you decided to follow the reported players as they were exiting the lab, in addition, why does your ally state that they are very injured? I didnt follow them out, as you can see that the second i saw the Elegy Custom Retro and the Hakucho Drag i reversed and started leaving the lab. They passed me and continued to go outside, as i thought theres more of them inside i decided i would just leave the entrance of sealab and cross the bridge so they dont block me in with a heavy vehicle. Once i went over the bridge, i went to the right side (didnt follow them at all) and waited for confirmation over the radio. Emma Volkov asked if i have a seat over the radio, so i circled back and crossed the bridge in order to pick up my gang member from the situation and leave. My ally stated that he needs a pickup so i went to pick him up, there were no shots fired in the whole video of me entering the drug lab but they decided to shoot at me without any escalation or prior interactions. If it was an active shootout, why did the Elegy not fire upon me instantly but decided to leave the lab and then come back once i tried to pick up Emma Volkov? If you have any further questions, please let me know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zanit Posted May 30, 2022 Report Share Posted May 30, 2022 (edited) 10 hours ago, alexalex303 said: [@Zanit] - Emma Volkov [49] Please provide a video showing the entirety of the shootout including the way in which it started, as the provided video is not long enough to show the events that occurred. If the requested player(s) do not respond within (24) hours, this report will be concluded based on the evidence that has already been provided, to the best of our ability. Regards, Senior Support Chunder Moderator alexalex303 Hey I’m currently on vacation at the moment but I get back Tuesday so I will answer everything Tuesday if that’s alright. Proof can be sent to staff. Edited May 30, 2022 by Zanit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zanit Posted June 2, 2022 Report Share Posted June 2, 2022 (edited) The player I'm fighting here is Noah Brazy, he's banned for ban evading. Edited June 2, 2022 by Zanit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harveyyy Posted June 3, 2022 Report Share Posted June 3, 2022 This report will be concluded by myself and @Chunder within the next few hours. We appreciate you all being patient as this is under review. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harveyyy Posted June 3, 2022 Report Share Posted June 3, 2022 Thank you for your patience as we reviewed this report. Following review of all evidence and provided statements, we have made the decision to accept this report and conclude it as follows: Kai_Jurkuvenas will be receiving a Deathmatching Punishment for the reported incident. Mike_Bexter will be receiving a Deathmatching Punishment for the reported incident. In the context of this situation, we can see the reporting player being pulled over by SD, in which K9 RP was done by the deputies. After the fact, the player can be seen driving to Sealab to pick up Osiris_Volkov. Upon arrival, he makes contact with the reported players as they were leaving the lab, in which he can be seen pulling out of the lab, then back in, as he received another radio call from Osiris_Volkov to pick him up from the said location. Shortly after, the reported players in the Elegy can be seen approaching the reporting player and subsequently shooting him for seemingly no reason. This has sparked a chase in which the reporting player can be seen crashing their vehicle and getting killed by the players. To address the claims by the reported players; Kai_Jurkuvenas claimed that when the shootout happened at Sealab, he was shot by one of the Shenzen members, however, he completely failed to provide any evidence to support his claims. You are responsible for ensuring that you have valid evidence when you are informed by a player to save it; the player has specifically (/PMd) you to save it, as they'll be submitting a report against you. Additionally, the shootout that happened at Sealab was not against your ally, it was against a player that you're not affiliated with. Not only that, but based on the context of this situation, you still had no reason to kick and finish Emma_Volkov, as you clearly had no Deathmatching rights against her, nor any form of escalation that would justify killing her. She was simply injured on the ground after she got shot by Noah_Brazy; simply put, this was inappropriate. Furthermore, In regards to Mike_Bexter's involvement in this situation, as there was no escalation that warranted the shooting, you will also be receiving the same punishment. You shouldn't be attacking/shooting players based on the word of another player. If you didn't witness a player being hostile towards your ally, you are not allowed to attack them. Not only did the player show zero hostility and was posing no threat, but he also was not involved in the initial shootout that both of you were NOT involved in. As such, the above-mentioned punishments will be issued. Report is accepted and archived. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
