Luna Lei Copbaiting

[BroskiBen]

Player(s) being reported: @Leela Luna_Lei (Hopefully the tag works)
Date of rule breach: 03/10/2018
Time of rule breach: (Not sure)

Your characters name: Matt Trustson
Other players involved: Bakmeel (Helped me with an IG report first), Chloe Bailey

Specific rule broken:
Cop baiting or purposely trying to create a chase or provoke cops for no reason is not allowed. Advertisements by news agencies or bleets should not contain illegal or offensive information. 
You may coerce a news reporter to post a legal ad if they have the money on hand however you may not coerce them to create illegal ads.

How did the player break the rule?: Walked into the police department, went behind the desk, and then placed this note. Apparently the RP got voided so I'm not sure how that works, but all I saw was this note which in my opinion is cop baiting.

Evidence of rule breach: 

[Pjuski]

https://gyazo.com/1a194ada24448fbd11f586255e550016

So this all started yesterday when Luna got injuried at LSC, i was off duty and knew that she was wanted, she had new outfit and mask on but i asked on of her friends who she was and they confirmed that it was Luna, i called the cops and said that i had her at LSC injuried and wanned backup, i treated her on scene and waited for backup, in this time she also asked someone to kill her or her words was " i know i shouldnt say kill me...but do it". Shayan Klep rolled up and started to whisper to her when she was wounded on the floor. they talked for like 5 minutes and when the cop rolled up he shot her and ran off. we contacted admins and MarcoD, Dingus, Muzkets where some of the admins on the situation. Marco started to talk to them as it really looked like mercykilling. after a while Shayan got a non rp punishment but luna didnt get anything. the hole scene was voided and we let luna go eventho she was and still is wanted. 

Then today Matt Trustson finds this letter in the police station. we know it belong to Luna Lei, how it got there we dont know but it dosent help the fact that its cop baiting and if she came and placed it there herself its also failrp as a wanted person would never place their feets in the police station as the station would always have officers around. 

two days ago she also made this and this was also found at the station by an officer :

https://gyazo.com/98bea70790cba9e85136c9a35e5403ff

And also i would like for you guys to also see this as a Metagaming case as she mention my name in the letter that i have to watch out , wich she cant do as the hole situation was voided and she have no ic reason to go after me or any other officer that was involved.

[nateX]

Hello and thank you for making this report! Player Luna Lei (Stranger 4171_1288) has 24 hours to respond to this report with her side of the story! I was not able to find her Discord or forum account. If you see the player in-game, please let her know of this report.

Thank you,
nateX
Moderator

[Lunaa]

wus poppin'

9 hours ago, Charlotte_Mercer said:

So this all started yesterday when Luna got injuried at LSC, i was off duty and knew that she was wanted, she had new outfit and mask on but i asked on of her friends who she was and they confirmed that it was Luna, i called the cops and said that i had her at LSC injuried and wanned backup, i treated her on scene and waited for backup, in this time she also asked someone to kill her or her words was " i know i shouldnt say kill me...but do it". Shayan Klep rolled up and started to whisper to her when she was wounded on the floor. they talked for like 5 minutes and when the cop rolled up he shot her and ran off. we contacted admins and MarcoD, Dingus, Muzkets where some of the admins on the situation. Marco started to talk to them as it really looked like mercykilling. after a while Shayan got a non rp punishment but luna didnt get anything. the hole scene was voided and we let luna go eventho she was and still is wanted. 

This is unrelated to anything in this report. This has already been taken care of so please don't bring this up & use this as evidence. This is NOT the reason why you were called out on the note, since I died. You and officer Bacon have caught me before, but I escaped from that. () How is that metagaming?

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10 hours ago, Charlotte_Mercer said:

we know it belong to Luna Lei

How? (Metagaming?)

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10 hours ago, Charlotte_Mercer said:

if she came and placed it there herself its also failrp as a wanted person would never place their feets in the police station as the station would always have officers around. 

No one knows how the note got in there. Next to that, it could've been anyone that left the note.

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11 hours ago, BroskiBen said:

Walked into the police department, went behind the desk, and then placed this note.

The note has been placed on top of the desk.*

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This was not meant to bait cops. I roleplay as a criminal; I'm aware I'm wanted and this is a way of communicating with the PD.

 

[BroskiBen]

Thanks for giving your side of the story, I don't think I have anything to add so I'll wait for support or admin response

[Pjuski]

Broskiben mention in his report that "the situation was voided" and thats the reason i explained what happend the day before and why you would put "watch out chloe,bitch" in the letter, as you have no other reason to do so, when it comes to the episode where you say thats not the reason i'm mention in the note i would like to inform you that even if me and Sergeant Bacon have catched you before but you have ran away you only have 24 hours to do anything about it, so thats not a legit reason either.and all the stars and moons in the drawing is your typical way write notes, and its not metagaming as i havent used this information icly   how the note got there, i said "IF" and didn't say you placed it there. 

I dont have more to add and would wait for Support or admins  

[nateX]

After further investigation, I have come to the conclusion that player Luna Lei (Stranger 4171_1288)  will not be given a punishment as the player is not directly breaking any rules.

 

Rejected/Archived

[Osborn]

@Lunaa Hey. This report's being re-considered after further discussion. No punishment is being issued but take this as a verbal warning, it is not allowed (only in certain circumstances).

Calling 911 to report yourself or to simply bait a reaction from the police is punishable, we deem is as unrealistic. (Reference: https://forum.eclipse-rp.net/topic/9956-administration-corruption-lewis/), notes are no different.

With notes, it doesn't matter who drops it, what matters is who writes it and with what intention. The content on these two notes is clearly to bait a reaction from the police (bait = to deliberately taunt/annoy), and if a person wanted for murder or other serious felony charges writes notes to bait the police like this, we deem is as unrealistic. The only time it would be allowed, is if someone is role-playing a character that fits the role-play of taunting the police, but you are not role-playing that type of character from what I've witnessed first-hand. Reference to infamous serial killers like Jack The Ripper, The Zodiac Killer, Son of Sam etcetera. Hanging around Los Santos Customs or other hub areas while wanted, and after baiting the police like this, is not a character that fits the role-play of leaving notes. 

By all means, if you want to outright role-play a proper "serial killer" character (Of course, you can't go around killing randomly, so it'd have to function a bit different than it does In Real Life), but leave notes like clues or messages by victims or crime scenes, go ahead and do so - but stick to that character, and build a story around that character. Notes and clues are mysterious if you look at the history of serial killers, from the most infamous letters and notes, none of them give their identity up, it involves a lengthy investigation. A proper role-played character could justify leaving letters and notes to taunt the police.

If you continue leaving notes with your current character to taunt and bait the police, you are going to be punished for Cop Baiting. Again, it doesn't matter who leaves it, what matters is who writes it and with what intention it has. We emphasize realistic role-play, and if you name-change and create a new character to proper role-playing a mysterious criminal, then that could justify it, but your character isn't mysterious in any shape or form.