Cooksley Posted October 2, 2018 Report Share Posted October 2, 2018 Player(s) being reported: @Dmitrij Nagiev (MASK 5564_7702), @PELEDA19(Mask 8097_6723), @Accardo(Mask 5973_5587), @Moffe (Mask 4116_3051) Date of rule breach:10/2/2018 Time of rule breach:2:40pm PST Your characters name: Jaimie Deegan Other players involved: @37hh(Mask 7176_5749), Kevin_Lewis , Alex_Matters, Matthew_Howard, @Archaeah, @Furbz Specific rule broken: 6.3 Metagaming 6.3.1 Metagaming (MG) is the act of relaying IC information through OOC methods or using OOC information in roleplay scenarios. OOC methods include third-party software, for example, Discord. 6.6 Non-roleplay How did the player break the rule?: As you can see in my video provided RP was being provided We wher a good time was being had. Then all of a sudden @PELEDA19 Comes out of no where not saying a word and aims a gun at the police officer which I was in RP mode so I started shooting him instantly due to him acting like that as I would in real life. Then everyone gets out of their cars and just starts shooting. I think this is very poor RP and should be punishable. I would have punished them myself at the time but I was streaming. Evidence of rule breach: 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Furbz Posted October 2, 2018 Report Share Posted October 2, 2018 These people were not at the scene for a long time. They had were not involved withing this RP and had no clue what was happening. We figured out that we had lack of evidence and wanted to release the suspects. At this moment the people pull up and start shooting us out of nowhere. There was no radio communication that could lead to this event. The people who are in cuffs are not able to use a radio after all. This would point towards an ooc way of communication otherwise known as metagaming. These people didn't say anything before opening fire on us. This is considerd Killing On Sight in my opinion. Drawing the Assault Rifle isn't RPed either. Where did he get it from, his back pocket? There was no text or voice RP before shooting at us. The RP would have been that we let the suspects go because there was not enough evidence. This RP got interupted by this shooting. There was no reason to shoot at us because they were not involved within this RP. They arrived at the scene and opened fire. RP like this makes the server weak, we have a lot of incidents like this lately. Please make it stop and get the "real" RP back. Thomas Bennet 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dmitrij Nagiev Posted October 2, 2018 Report Share Posted October 2, 2018 (edited) We literally came to get gas and saw you guys, whilst we were filling up we wanted to do so illegal shit and help a couple of people out in this case it was the people we thought you were arresting. We legit said to each other to take positions and hold you guys up. But after my friend pulled out his ak and started to give out commands, you started firing at us. So you were basically the one who provoked us to gun all of you down. Your gun was fired first, officer. Why would we RP us firing our guns at you when you fired them first? We pointed our guns at your friends you started shooting at my friend without any RP so we shot back. English is not first language, so I can't really make a good reply. But this report is absurd. We basically told you what to do not to get shot and you started to open fire and got shot in return, what do you think would've happened in real life? USE YOUR HEAD. Edited October 2, 2018 by Dmitrij Nagiev 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Furbz Posted October 2, 2018 Report Share Posted October 2, 2018 (edited) @Dmitrij Nagiev Wanted to do some illegal stuff... This is opening fire without any RP involved so could be considerd KOS. There was no communication towards us as PD. The fact that you thought that we were arresting someone tells us that you were not involved within this RP moment. You interupt a RP that you had no connection with. Just don't enter a RP when your character doesn't have any connection to it besides "wanting to do illegal stuff". This ruined the RP for us as PD and partly for the suspect that where allowed to go off. As proven in the video, there is no communication coming from your group towards us. I can't hear anyone saying something like: "Let them go or we will shoot". A person aiming a gun at a officer is direct threath for a Police officer. We can open fire when there is direct threath with possible lethal damage. Edited October 2, 2018 by Furbz Reply that im responding to got edited so i will edit mine as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoza Posted October 2, 2018 Report Share Posted October 2, 2018 Watching the video few times, you can see grey cars and bikes going past multiple times, they knew what is happening. You have no idea if the guys arrested were theyre friends, allies, or enemies. But as I said before, one of the cops did not listen to commands, and you're gun was fired first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dmitrij Nagiev Posted October 2, 2018 Report Share Posted October 2, 2018 We rp'd until you started to shoot at us. And we're a gang, and gangs do illegal stuff. And how is interfering the RP of someone getting arrested without knowing the situation against the rules? A lot of people in real life just assume things and do what they think is correct in that situation. In this situation I thought that for us as a gang it would be correct to hopefully to hold up some police officers and help fellow criminals escape and not get jailed. But since you didn't comply and started to shoot at us. Not showing any signs of fear. You were the reason your whole squad was wiped out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PELEDA19 Posted October 2, 2018 Report Share Posted October 2, 2018 https://plays.tv/s/LvEuI_kaFK3B Do not close the report,i want to argue with a staff member about the situation,not the people who will do whatever it takes to prove their point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archaeah Posted October 3, 2018 Report Share Posted October 3, 2018 (edited) I am one of the police officers in this situation, Cynthia Mahoney. In @Cooksley's video you cannot hear the man speaking to us. I see he shot after he saw a weapon aimed at us. Which relates to the Kill on sight rule and is well within the rules to shoot as he cannot hear the man, and the gun was not aimed at him. The gun was also a pistol, not an AK as was claimed by @Dmitrij Nagiev Quote 7.4.3 Kos is allowed for these specific reasons: Your life was threatened in the past (ex. :In a robbery, a combat situation or a hostage situation); The life of a friend of ally is threatened at the present or if you have witnessed it happen in the past; There is an attempt to steal your valuables, or those of your group, if the value of theft is not less than $75,000 (this point excludes vehicles) There was no contact or RP on my end prior to him walking over, right as we were about to release one suspect, and had already released another. If you expect the farthest police officer to have been able to hear you say hands up, we should expect that you could hear us talking about releasing our second suspect and already heard the first being let go. What gang risks their own lives and contraband for complete strangers by threatening police officers? To me, I did not see you coming and only shot once shots had already been fired. https://streamable.com/1e5fm Edited October 3, 2018 by Archaeah Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dmitrij Nagiev Posted October 3, 2018 Report Share Posted October 3, 2018 I mean we didn't risk our lives since we were certain we wouldn't die since we outnumbered you and had better guns than you. Your fellow officer didn't realise (or broke fearrp) that he was surrounded and tried to save your lives but instead he screwed up and made every single one of die. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LucasYra Posted October 3, 2018 Report Share Posted October 3, 2018 Well if he didnt shoot u wouldnt have died. He knew if we KoS we could get in trouble but he started with FearRP shooting at our friend. We wont let him get injured so we had no other choise just to Shoot you down. All we would have done is take ur stuff and help some random people and have a bit of fun. You made this situation by urself you cannot blame us. I dont see point for you Cynthia to respond any more at let cooksley answer to Peleda19 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Cooksley Posted October 3, 2018 Author Report Share Posted October 3, 2018 How is it fear RP when none of you where out of your cars lol you guys didnt have any idea what was going on I'm going to stop replying here until someone takes care of the report. You guys should get more organized and learn how to RP and initiate RP properly. Maybe instead of running and gunning you come into the scene ask questions come back with weapons drawn all of you not just one and actually demand something not just point a gun and say nothing. But everyone should stop replying to this immediately until a staff member responds and asks us to respond. Thank you. Also you guys need to stop freaking out you are being reported for possible metagaming due to I was streaming so I just threw that in there but the biggest role you broke here is 6.6.1 Actions that are unrealistic or promote poor quality roleplay are considered as non-roleplay. So please stop replying and be respectful to stacc when they ask you to respond thank you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LucasYra Posted October 3, 2018 Report Share Posted October 3, 2018 (edited) EDITED < No one shooted a bullet before you started spraying as hard as you can your 50 cal > Youre actions gave me no other option as just make you injured < Youre just pathetic. 4 of us were out of vechicles and i was the last one a bit late. But it doesnt gives u rights to open fire. It was you who didnt understand situation and started shooting. We didnt screw up your roleplay you did. This could went such a different way , as ((example)) you live you regroup and try to go after us , but you decided to be hero and became a clown. I see your not even watching footage and replaying ,and how couldve know 100% u couldnt hear us ,our guys were out of their cars just infront told ur police officers to put their hands up and start role playing , but again u tried to be a hero but became a clown , i really think you , yourself know that you fuckt up and try to give all the blame on us , as we are the bad guys. Another Staff Member who lost my esteem. End of the conversation. Edited October 3, 2018 by LucasYra Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cooksley Posted October 3, 2018 Author Report Share Posted October 3, 2018 So what holding cops up is your idea of good RP. Well it's not. Your points are invalid you guys said nothing as seen in my video. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LucasYra Posted October 3, 2018 Report Share Posted October 3, 2018 (edited) We did not make a gun shot before u started going crazy with ur weapon do you realise that , for that you putted ur fellow officers to hospital. It wasnt our bad either you did not hear , you shouldnt just fire up like that either , idk what movies of cops u watch u arent them , you cant go shootin crazy like you gonna kill gangs with a pistol ur point isnt valid either. I gave an example and since when we cant mess with cops? They do it all the time with us. You shoot you die. I dont know what else u dont understand here. Edited October 3, 2018 by LucasYra Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cooksley Posted October 3, 2018 Author Report Share Posted October 3, 2018 I get that but you running up to apolice officer with a gun without other guns aimed. You want me to just sit there and not RP a cop and be as dumb as a brick? And I dont know what movies you seen where people just go around holding up cops? as well as kidnapping them? What you are not understanding is that RP situation should have never happened. You just got to be smart about it and actually RP.... I will no longer be posting on this topic until staff decide to pick this one up. I will also be locking this topic as well as these comments have gotten out of hand on my part and yours Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MusketDeezNuts Posted October 3, 2018 Report Share Posted October 3, 2018 Locked for review. Would also like to point out. Its not the cops problem they would not be able to hear you. From what I can see. No shout VOIP was used. We got that in for reasons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flucifial Posted October 12, 2018 Report Share Posted October 12, 2018 Pending @MusketDeezNuts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MusketDeezNuts Posted October 18, 2018 Report Share Posted October 18, 2018 Hello everyone! Pardon me for the delay, This report somehow was not in my personal archive. @Dmitrij Nagiev Dmitrij_Alexandrovic // Stranger 6686_3602 Has already been permabanned. but will still recieve a NonRP on their record. @PELEDA19 Steel_White // Stranger 1782_1899 Has already been permabanned. but will still recieve a NonRP on their record. @Accardo Rycka_White // Stranger 357_2267 Will receive: NonRP Behavior. The cops ware doing great RP and then comes three guys who ruins the entire RP moment without any form of RP happening from their sides. Report Accepted and Archived. Kind Regards -MusketDeezNuts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
