Chad_Rapkov ID 3, Patty_Rapkov ID 97 (10. Powergaming)

[Alphonse Giovanni]

Player(s) being reported: ID 3, ID 97
Date of interaction reported: 03/05/2022.
Unix time stamp from HUD: 1651592724

Your character name: Alphonse Giovanni.
Other player(s) involved: ID 3, ID 97

Specific rule(s) broken:
10. Powergaming.

How did the player break the rule(s)?  (300 words maximum)\ I was systemly removed from the moving vehicle with 0 prior roleplay. the text commands came at the same time i was thrown, and can even be interpreted as if i had no option to resist. i was just auto-ejected.

Evidence of rule breach

[Ash]

Pending review 

[Lightninbolt9]

PLAYER REPORT PENDING RESPONSE
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Thank you for your patience while this report is under review.

After reviewing this report and the evidence attached to it, we have decided this report can not be concluded at this time. The following player(s) will be required to provide their side of the story from this situation within the next twenty-four (24) hours:

[Notified In-Game] Chad_Rapkov (3) - Please explain the scenario from your perspective and provide any evidence you may have. 

[Notified In-Game] Patty_Rapkov (97) - Please explain the scenario from your perspective and provide any evidence you may have. 

If the player(s) above fail to respond within the next twenty-four (24) hours, this report will be concluded, based on the evidence that has already been provided, to the best of our ability.

Regards,

Ash, Chunder, & Lightninbolt9

[Netlok]

Hey Chad here sorry i do not have any footage of this as i was not PM'd in game that i would need to be saving footage of this incedint. The reporting party got into a verbal arguement with me during the roadwork job. I decided to RP pushing him out of the truck so i didnt need to continue the arguement, i typed out the RP and then Patty after used the command to eject him, the reporting party did not begin typing during this time. If we did not give him enough time to respond i apologize for that but on my side it did not seem like he was attempting to respond and if he had felt we had carried it out too fast it would have been nice to be notified in game so we could possibly have continued the RP around it.

[Patty]

Hi, Patty here.

I also do not have footage as I was never notified via OOC /b or via OOC /pm

The reporting party from my perspective was pushing Chad around attempting to start a fight. He then jumped into our truck despite the verbal arguments. As stated already chad then RP'd pushing the man out of the truck and after a small wait the man did not begin to reply or attempt to type so I presumed the RP was in place and used the command to follow up Chads RP of pushing him out of the truck. I also apologize if it felt like not enough time to respond however it did feel as though we gave him a fair chance and there was no RP response or ((typing)) above his ID so I continued through. If he notified me in game about feeling like there was an unfair advantage there or he didn't have enough time I would have happily stopped the truck and continued the RP around it.

Thanks for dealing with this report Ash, Chunder, & Lightninbolt9

[Ash]

REPORT CONCLUDED
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After reviewing this report and evidence attached to it, we've decided to accept this report and issue the punishments to the following player(s):

• @Patty Patty_Rapkov [ID 97] - Warning for NonRP (Powergaming)

I can understand the reasoning behind why you wanted to eject them from the vehicle, that is not in question. The RP prior to ejection was also fine, however, the timeframe in which you gave them to respond was very low. According to logs there was ~6 seconds between Chad's RP and the /eject command. The powergaming rule explicitly states: "Forceful commands should be used after RP or the party is unresponsive for 30 seconds." This is regardless of their ((TYPING)) state as you should allow an ample amount of time before utilizing such forceful commands and therefore is the reason for the punishment and I hope moving forward you both exercise a little patience in situations like this in the future to make it fairer for all sides.

@Alphonse Giovanni, I also want you to take note that in the future, reaching out via /pm in the event of a potential rule break or disagreement in RP to involved player(s) can do everyone in the situation the world of good and avoid reports. There's a chance they could have come back and re-did the RP if you felt it was forced, but I guess in this situation we will never know. At the very least, I recommend you inform anyone that you will be reporting them for whatever reason.

If you have received a punishment that you disagree with, feel free to file a punishment appeal following the punishment appeal guidelines and format. If the reporting party suffered a loss greater than $25,000 in value, feel free to file a refund request following the refund request guidelines and format. 

Regards,
Admin Ash
Senior Support Chunder
Senior Support Lightninbolt9