Cosmo_Cassidy [68] | FRP and NRP

[Ax Spencer]

Player(s) being reported: Cosmo Cassidy 
Date of interaction reported: 20/04/2022.
Unix time stamp from HUD: 1650492184. 

Your character name: Ax Spencer
Other player(s) involved: Jayden Shepard, Bill Breacher, Dezzy Bala, Billy Drake. Kourtney Lafleur

Specific rule(s) broken:
Fear Roleplay - Non Roleplay

• If a player's life is in direct danger they must RP adequate fear and comply with demands. A player is not showing proper fear if they run while on foot/bike or in an unpowered vehicle and a weapon is aimed at them at close range.
• Actions that are unrealistic or promote poor quality roleplay are considered as non-roleplay

How did the player break the rule(s)?  (300 words maximum)\
Cosmo was tased several times. He didn't want to comply and continued to get tazed. Then he was Rply dragged and forced drag to a cruiser. Upon reaching the cruiser Cosmo was /undrag and then he proceeded to run. Cosmo then later runs into Bill Breacher who has a carbine to his head and running past him screaming "Don't shoot me with the shotgun" He then was taken to DOC which he was held at gunpoint and proceed to punch me and Kourtney Lafleur.

Evidence of rule breach

 

Edited April 22, 2022 by Ax Spencer

[Ax Spencer]

Player(s) being reported: Cosmo Cassidy - ID 68
Date of interaction reported: 21/04/2021.
Unix time stamp from HUD: 1650585769. 

Your character name: Ax Spencer
Other player(s) involved: Eleanor Quinn, Jayden Shepard.

Specific rule(s) broken:
Fear Roleplay - Non Roleplay

• Actions that are unrealistic or promote poor quality roleplay are considered as non-roleplay.
• Fear RP is showing appropriate care and concern to preserve your character's safety and life.
• A player is not showing proper fear if they run while on foot/bike or in an unpowered vehicle and a weapon is aimed at them at close range,

How did the player break the rule(s)?  (300 words maximum)\
Cosmo was pulled over. He then started to run away, he stalled. Then he was held at gunpoint and proceeded to turn on the vehicle after multiple failed attempts ignoring the guns in his face. Then he started to drive onto the beach then he continued to the end of the pier in which he jumped over the edge and he started to swim. Cosmo eventually forced his death by drowning himself.

Evidence of rule breach

 

[Harveyyy]

Pending review by @DoTo, @Capone., and myself. Both reports have been merged as they involve the same players. 

[Harveyyy]

Thank you for your patience as we reviewed the report. Prior to concluding this report, we would like to hear statements from the player(s) as specified below:

Cosmo_Cassidy | ID 68/159 (Notified In-Game) - Please provide your side of the story and any evidence that you may have. Additionally, please explain the following:

• Explain why you seemingly ignored the tazer effects and attempted to get in the truck, then proceeded to run away. Do you feel your actions were realistic?
• Explain why you ran away when you were RPly being held by 2 officers.
• Explain why you were driving a scripted job vehicle and involving yourself in a pursuit with PD. What actions/events led to this situation? 
• What were your intentions when you jumped off the Pier? Did you have a destination in mind? Additionally, explain why it seems that you drowned your character during this situation. 

 Ax_Spencer | ID 30 (Notified In-Game) - Please explain your reasoning behind cuffing the player without any RP prior to using the command. Additionally, do you have any footage to support your claims in regards to the FearRP when the player ran into Bill Breacher?

 
Jayden_Shepard | ID 160 (Notified In-Game) - Please explain your reasoning behind dragging the player without any RP prior to using the command. 

If the requested player(s) do not respond within (24) hours, this report will be concluded based on the evidence that has already been provided, to the best of our ability. 

Regards
Moderator Harveyyy

[Ax Spencer]

Harveyyy I was told to just cuff him because after several /me attempts Cosmo still ignored me and my RP and tried to continue to run. Also I just asked Breacher about his POV and he doesn't have it. I was having Nvidia problems and my recording software crashed. So my POV cant be saved which is why Jayden Shepard has his bodycam rolling

[Jayden Shepard]

Hello, my reasoning behind not RPing to /drag him was because he was just running away at every opportunity with no interest in RPing anything at all. I didn’t feel that I had enough time to type out an RP to reliably hold him down because I was confident that he would not even acknowledge it and just run, probably before I even had a chance to finish typing it, therefore making him too far away to grab him in RP. Perhaps I should have typed something either way, but when someone is that blatantly making zero effort to RP in anyway whatsoever, its quite hard to RP myself.

[Harveyyy]

Thank you for your patience as we reviewed this report. Following review of all evidence and provided statements, we have made the decision to accept this report and conclude it as follows:

Cosmo_Cassidy will be receiving a Not here to RP Punishment for the reported incident.

Ax_Spencer will be receiving a Spoken to about NonRP (PG) for the reported incident.

Jayden_Shepard will be receiving a Spoken to about NonRP (PG) for the reported incident.
 

In the first clip, we can see the reported player getting arrested by the reporting players. During this situation, he was tazed 10 times in total, but he kept running and acting in an unrealistic manner, completely disregarding the tazer effects and what his character would be suffering. Moreover, the players RP'd holding him using a (/me), however, that was completely ignored, as the reported player decided to run away, without even making the effort of RPing anything that would make his actions reasonable and somewhat realistic. 

Moving onto the second clip, we can see the reported player driving a scripted job vehicle and involving himself in a police pursuit, shortly after, he decided to jump off the Pier and subsequently drowned his character, seemingly to avoid the arrest. Not to mention the complete lack of regard for his character's life and safety. Overall, this whole situation was extremely poor and does not demonstrate any decent RP. As such, the above-mentioned punishment will be issued.

Lastly, a 'spoken to' warning will be issued to Ax_Spencer and Jayden_Shepard for powergaming. After reviewing the provided evidence, we can see both players using forceful commands (/cuff & /drag) without doing any prior RP. Even if you encounter a player that is breaking rules, that does not justify using such forceful commands without any RP. Keep in mind, a "spoken to" is not a punishment, but just a note on your administrative record, so other administrative staff would know that you've been spoken to in regards to this topic.

 

Regards
Moderator Harveyyy & Senior Support DoTo & Capone