dm/cl/fearrp/nonrp

[Tjml_]

Player(s) being reported: mask 2529_5430; stranger 8304_7825; mask 6085_1082
Date of rule breach: 2018-09-22
Time of rule breach: ~19UTC?

Your characters name:Darryl_Lembe
Other players involved:mask 4354_6073

Specific rule broken:
mask 2529_5430
2.3.2 Exploiters will be blocked and their character assets will be removed.
6.6.1 Actions that are unrealistic or promote poor quality roleplay are considered as non-roleplay.
7.1.1 Fear roleplay is the concept of roleplaying fear for your character’s life in situations where your safety is in immediate
danger when the attacker is in a position to quickly end your life at will. This can come in a form of having a weapon
aimed at your character’s head at close range, where reaching for your own weapon would result in you being killed
instantly, or where your life is in direct danger and any attempt to resist would result in your immediate death.

stranger 8304_7825
7.8.1 Players must not disconnect from a roleplay situation to avoid negative IC consequences. If you crash, you must
reconnect to the server and inform the other parties and attempt to resume the roleplay scenario.

mask 6085_1082
7.2.1 Deathmatch is the act of killing or hurting another player (or damaging their property) without a proper roleplay reason.
An attempt to break this rule will result in a temporary or permanent ban.
7.2.3 A player cannot kill their victim, if the victim is in compliance with the demands.
7.2.4 A player must allow their victim enough time to comply with the demands and warn the victim more than one time, if
the victim is too slow to respond or react to the demands.

How did the player break the rule?:
Starting with the first guy (mask 2529_5430). He did not follow the hands up command, continuing to talk on radio. After getting few bullets
in his skull, hes still able to talk on radio, not talking about server glitch, allowing him to run away?! Thats where non roleplay happened.
Pretty stupid when dead guy is able to run away from the scene and still call for backup? Meanwhile we got distracted, which didnt allow us
to rp properly.
Continuing to the second guy (stranger 8304_7825), pretty simple combat log off. Not much to discuss about.
Wrapping up with 3rd guy, main star of the night. Pretty cool to see a lot of quality roleplay going on. He had all the time in the world to
command me on doing anything, but that guy is bloodthirsty and is killing people while they have their hands up? As a rule 7.2.4 state "A player
must allow their victim enough time to comply with the demands and warn the victim more than one time, if the victim is too slow to respond
or react to the demands." Since there were no demands i call this move a non roleplay/poor quality roleplay. Also question to this male who shot 
me down is, would you kill a person in real life if he forfeited in a gunfight, have put his hands up?

Comments: talked with admin @MusketDeezNuts after the whole scene happened (40/50mins after, thats when the first admin responded). He could not
retrieve my items, my car (which was choped) or anything else back, because few players were off already. 

Evidence of rule breach:

[krillinas]

Hey its me stranger 8304_7825 . I was random guy here, i came to buy burger and i crashed they i press "Buy" button. I came back ASAP(maximum 2minutes later).

[Tjml_]

20 minutes ago, krillinas said:

I was random guy here, i came to buy burger and i crashed they i press "Buy" button.

Clearly you were not a random guy, since you were robbing a store with your mate, and you can definitely see that on the footage

[krillinas]

41 minutes ago, Tjml_ said:

Clearly you were not a random guy, since you were robbing a store with your mate, and you can definitely see that on the footage

Its not my mate. I came to shop and i saw the cashier holding the hands up, i tried to rob then immediately change my mind and tried to buy burger. Maybe thats why my game crashed(freeze) I still can  hear your voice saying hands up, but what could i do my game freezed so i alf+f4 and immediately restart my game. I came back in 2minutes and everybody oround me was dead  i still done my shoping and left. And i think the guy who is beside me can confirm that that im completely random person in this situation. 

EDIT* Yup i just tried command /stopgrabCash and immediately tried to buy burger my game freezed again. 

Edited September 23, 2018 by krillinas

[Anton Lavash]

Hello,
Im mask 2529_2530, and the first thing I want to say is that when you guys came to the shop, you said hands up and i was not given much time to /stopgrabcash and put my hands up. Second thing when u downed me it didn't show to me u downed me, I started running and asked for backup because my mates were really close to that place. I don't know how this happened that i could run while injured, because to me it didn't show up im injured. Before that I was just radio checking, didn't see you guys behind me already, and you kinda insta injured me. 

5.3.2. Examples of invalid or poor reasons to kill which would lead to a punishment:
● Because they are severely injured and have extremely low health;
● Without giving them enough time to respond to your demands;
● For minor reasons, such as, an accidental traffic incident;
● Because you are roleplaying a murderer or terrorist;
● Players who have complied with your demands;
● Player has denied your OOC request for consent of sexual RP or other rules needing consent;

Edited September 23, 2018 by Anton Lavash

[Tjml_]

Hello Lavash, 

haha. If you opened the rules book, you would see theres no rule 5.3.2 anymore, so I have no idea where that came from... And if we would take a look at the rule 

7.2.2 Examples of valid reasons to attack another player:
• If they attempt to harm, hurt you or damage your property (or if they attempt to do the same to your friends or
allies), this also includes an attempt by the police to arrest someone;
• If they report you to the police for a committed heavy crime, however, if someone reports you for a light crime,
such as illegal parking, then the reason is insufficient;
• If they are not in compliance with the demands or if they attempt to escape or call other players for help;

we can definitely see that last sentence says it is valid reason to attack if he calls for backup.

 

[Flucifial]

Hello and thank you for making this report.

It is quite clear that quite a bit of rule breaches did occur here.

First of all, Anton_Lavash (Mask 2529_5430) did break the exploiting bugs rule as he knew he was downed, even stating so through the radio after being shot, completely unrealistic (non-roleplay) and violating Fear Roleplay. The reporting parties did not break the deathmatching rule by not giving them enough time, you were shot because you began to speak on the radio. 

Second of all, Sergej_Reed (Stranger 8304_7825) did in-fact quit during active RP, but I will give him the benefit of the doubt on his story and will not issue any punishments towards him. Thank you for trying to come back as soon as possible.

Third of all, Alexey_Alexeev (Mask 6085_1082) shot a player while he was surrendering and had his hands up, however, he had just witnessed you shooting at his friend, giving him a valid reason to kill you.

Anton_Lavash (Mask 2529_5430) will receive a seventy-two (72) hour ban for their first normal offense of Exploiting Server & Client Bugs, a warning for their first normal offense of Fear Roleplay, and a non-roleplay punishment for speaking on the radio after being shot, fluently.

Report Accepted/Archived

-Flucifial