Elijah_Evans ID 117 | DM

[Jett_J]

Player(s) being reported: Elijah Evans ID 117
Date of interaction reported: 13/APR/2022
Unix time stamp from HUD: 1649826578

 

Your character name: Jett Jones
Other player(s) involved: N/A

Specific rule(s) broken:

14. Deathmatch (DM)

• Deathmatching is the act of attacking a player without a proper IC motive and interaction.

How did the player break the rule(s)?  (300 words maximum)

I drove to burgershot while patroling around. I spot Elijah Evans and request he takes his mask off as he is on foot in public. He listens but then he puts his mask back on. I then decided to cite him for face concealment. This is purely protocol from the penal code. He then continues to put the mask on multiple times and so I tell him if he keeps putting the mask on he will receive a misdemeanour.
He takes the mask off after I tell him it's the last time i'm going ask him before he gets a misdemeanour. I am clearly giving him many opportunities not to get arrested.
I then walk into burgershot to order food and while i'm standing in the burgershot he runs in with a gun and holds me up in the middle of the restaraunt.
I comply with his demands and after he RPly cuffs me he decides to kill my character.
I think this was DM/NRP because I don't think me warning him that he will receive a misdemeanour if he keeps disobeying the order is enough escalation to kill my character.
He decided to hold up and kill inside of burgershot which is a busy location and it was the middle of the day doesn't seem to make any sense. The risk far outweighed
any reward which frankly, I don't think there was any reward. His character was not being charged with anything at the time and it was his character's decision to purposefully disobey my characters requests.
In my opinion, a $500 citation isn't a justified reason to kill someone especially in a public area.
 

 

Evidence of rule breach
My Nvidia shadowplay wasn't recognizing ragemp as a supported game so it wouldn't save my footage.

SmushyTaco stated he has the footage so he should be able to provide it.

https://imgur.com/2D639Qd

 

[jason]

PENDING REVIEW
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Hi there! Thank you for submitting this player report.

This report will now be pending review by myself. During this time, we ask that you please refrain from any back-and-forth in this report between anyone involved.

Regards,
jason

[Chunder]

PENDING RESPONSE

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After reviewing this report and the evidence attached to it, we have decided that this report cannot be concluded at this time. We would like to receive a response from the following player(s) to explain their side of the story:

• [Notified In-game] - Elijah_Evans [117] - Please explain your point of view in regard to the reported situation and provide any evidence that you may have.  

If the requested player(s) do not respond within (24) hours, this report will be concluded based on the evidence that has already been provided, to the best of our ability. 

Regards,

Senior Support Chunder
Senior Moderator jason

[Jett_J]

The issue I have is that I believe DM rights require heavy escalation from both sides. As seen from the videos/images all the escalation that has happened between our characters has almost exclusively come from his side. It seems like he just uses the escalation his character creates and uses that as DM rights.

 

Starting from the hostage situation.

That took place on January 21st, 2022 which was full-on escalation from his side. I told him jokingly that he is going down to the county jail because he hopped in my passenger seat. He took that as a serious threat and held my character hostage for a while as he read off his word document which probably had every LEO on it. I even told him ICly that it was a joke when I said he is going to jail. That was one specific situation from almost 3 months ago that really doesn't have any more meaning today. My character became more distrustful of Elijah Evans and stopped trying to be friendly to him but reasonably so.

 

Next, we look at the IA report:

As Smushy said, his character wanted revenge on mine because he was issued a disorderly conduct citation and he IA reported the deputy on scene and myself for not providing a badge number. The report turned out in his favor and my character simply got a written warning. My character was also disciplined ICly for letting people where a mask in public so my character consquentially has to be stricter about it.

ICly my character had no idea who made the IA report because of how many people were there at the time and that info is kept confidential by Internal Affairs. My character only found out when his character sent me that email that he just attached to his response above. My character did not acknowledge this in any way ICly, never responded to the email nor brought up the results of the IA report ICly, but Elijah Evans did. This again is only escalation coming from his side.

 

Looking back at the burgershot situation

I ask everyone around me to take their masks off according to protocol. The reason for focusing on Elijah is because he is around my character and is interacting the most with mine. My character gives him a citation but is still giving him opportunities to comply with the lawful orders provided instead of trying to arrest him at the first opportunity to do so. Elijah isn't the only one being told to take the mask off either. I also ask DQ to take his mask off but he starts riding his bike around the parking lot so I take my attention away from him.

Other than the citation and repeated verbal warnings given to Elijah, all the escalation is again sprouting from his character's actions as he is seen walking around trying to rally people up telling them to steal my cruiser and asking them for a gun to shoot my character.

 

 

 

Summing up all the interactions between our two characters in the last 3 or so months, his character has wronged my character multiple times. My character has given him two citations, one was the disorderly conduct citation before the IA report and one was the face concealment charge that happened 12 days after the first citation. 

He said that he thinks it is not NRP since he knows the people there but it's still a populated spot RPly and all it takes is one 911 call from a bystander for a response.

I think some of the reasons he gave for DM rights are reaching to justify what happened. If we wanted to go back and look at every negative interaction between people then gang members would have DM rights on each other at all times with rival gang members because they usually have nothing but negative interactions which each other.

Edited April 13, 2022 by Jett_J

[jason]

REPORT ACCEPTED
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After reviewing this report and evidence attached to it, we've decided to accept this report and issue these punishments to the following player(s):

• Elijah_Evans (117) - Deathmatching | Killing a player with extremely poor motive and escalation.

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The reported party is being issued this punishment for the following reason(s):

The buildup between your character and his is not relevant to this example. That line of RP was at the very least partially diffused after the IA report and its subsequent punishment. You were told to take your mask off, which you did, but then proceeded to bait out a response from him by putting it back on. You were given a citation to which you responded by murdering him in the middle of a restaurant. Had the circumstances been the same as the ones seen in the report you linked, which they are not, then this could've been argued as reasonable.

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jason & Chunder