Syrax_Jones (92) (NRP, FRP)

[equ1nox_]

Player(s) being reported: ID 92
Date of interaction reported: 09/04/2022
Unix time stamp from HUD: 1649477657

Your character name: Jesse Hunter
Other player(s) involved: Easton Hunter, Alan Kaymar

Specific rule(s) broken:

9. Non-Roleplay (NRP)

• Actions that are unrealistic or promote poor quality roleplay are considered as non-roleplay.
• Non-off road vehicles may not drive up mountains or steep hills. LSEMS & Mechanics are exempt.

13. Fear Roleplay (FRP)

• Fear RP is showing appropriate care and concern to preserve your character's safety and life.
• If a player's life is in direct danger they must RP adequate fear and comply with demands.
• A player still has the option to react if they are in a powered vehicle, if they already have a weapon drawn facing their attacker, or if their attacker's view is obstructed by an object.

How did the player break the rule(s)?  (300 words maximum)\
In the clip of sealabs, ID 92 rolls into the lab slowly as we were holding someone up, so we though it might be his backup. ID 49 (Easton_Rich) can be seen running to him as he is at a stop on his bike, telling him to get off the bike and aiming his PUMP Shotgun at him at such a close range. One shot with the pump at that range would probably injure him. He fled sealabs and we knew that he might be rolling labs as we saw him about 5 minutes later. We then decided to hide in the ditch by Braddocks in an attempt to trap him inside. Once he pulled in, we used the Kamacho to block the bridge and we tried to get him off the bike again. Once again, at point blank range, he fled, but this time went over 70km/h through the fence and doing a large drop off road and continued towards the highway. They made no attempt to slow down and drive carefully offroad, due to the fact that the bike itself is not designed for off road, especially for a drop like that. I do agree that in situations like these where your character's life is on the line and its life or death, caring about your vehicle is the least of your concern, but in this situation, the maneuvers done would not be feasible on such a bike, as it might cause injury to the driver and possibly break the bike completely.

 

I did try to go through an ingame report, but that was unsuccessful, so here we are.

Evidence of rule breach
https://streamable.com/q7x465

https://streamable.com/dcbb6q

Edited April 9, 2022 by equ1nox_
added the /pm for saving pov

[GiorgosK]

As this report is against a member of the support team, this will now be pending Support Staff Management.

Please be patient.

[Syrax]

Hello, [ID 92] Syrax Jones here. I'd like to thank staff members handling the report. I want to apologize for not having POV, though I will confirm I was requested to save it. With the changes to EAC and Nvidia Shadowplay, I have been unable to get it working as of yet as setting it to record desktop seems to only record my second monitor regardless of what setting I put into place. I did manage to get it working for a few days by switching to fullscreen and turning it on and then reverting to windows borderless but this fix no longer works for me for some reason.

To address the claims of breaking FearRP, in both videos it can be seen my vehicle is already moving long before they are anywhere near me. In the first video, at 0:03 I am already driving away while one party is down a hill with their view potentially obstructed by a bush and the other is even further. In the second, I am already moving at 0:06, before either party even manages to jump over the fence. While the argument could be made that the weapon of choice has a different definition of "close range," in both instances I was stumbling onto a hostile interaction (a robbery in the first and a recognition of hostile people in the second) and my character (nor I) had any inkling as to what weapon was being used. I had an opportunity to safely get away given I was on a powered vehicle and they weren't within close range in my opinion, so I left. Had they managed to get closer, I would of course obliged with FearRP. 

To address the NRP/stunt jumps, that was simply a poor execution of driving on my part. In my attempt to flee quickly given the second video was the fourth encounter they had attempted to rob/kill me and after being harassed and antagonized while driving down the highway with threats of "free smoke" and their attempting to lure me into north labs for a 3v1, I gunned the bike too hard to escape and upon crashing through the fence at 0:08, I was unable to veer to the right. I hit the bump at the edge of the road and went flying into the ravine; I wasn't even aware the bridge was blocked. While I have no POV as mentioned earlier, this can be substantiated by slowing down the second clip- you can hear my tires leave the ground at 0:09 and see clearly where the tire marks stop. You can also see that I had no control of the bike as the tires were not on the ground. When my tires did eventually return to the ground I attempted to handbrake but by that point it was too late.  Given I was already in the ravine, I opted instead to travel the flattest path through the river bank itself to get to safety which can be seen in the rest of the video. Going off road was not intentional in any way, shape, or form.

Edited April 9, 2022 by Syrax
Additional Information

[Kazjii]

REPORT ACCEPTED
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After reviewing this report and evidence attached to it, we've decided to accept this report and issue the punishments to the following player(s):

• Syrax_Jones (ID 92) - NonRP Spoken to Warning - After reviewing the footage, it is apparent that the action of off roading the vehicle was not of realistic tendency. As being on a sports bike, that class of bike has no trait or endurance to go off road. To address the FearRP, the bike was quickly able to get out of dangers way and was not stalled/off so within this situation, we will not conclude it as FearRP.

If you have received a punishment that you disagree with, feel free to file a punishment appeal following the punishment appeal guidelines and format. If the reporting party suffered a loss greater than $25,000 in value, feel free to file a refund request following the refund request guidelines and format.  

 

This report will now be locked and archived.

Regards,
Support Staff Management